Meet the Chiefs
#21
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2013
Position: CRJ-200 CA
Posts: 434
Nice. So I guess we can lump you in the pile with Denpilot and Todd-Sanchez. What a good group to hang out with.
I was a no voter and did actually vote no. BUT at the same time, glad it passed. I hurts to say that though. Moving on though into what is reality (contract is now in progress), I believe (my personal opinion) Frontier is a great place to be and a great place to get into within the next 12 mths. If so you will upgrade and you will be happy. Reassignment language? It’s lose yes, but we are no longer the companies target as well. The negotiations are over with. As a huge no voter, I honestly do not believe the company has their sights on reassigning us just for the fun of it. In the middle of a trip? Who cares, I’m already working. At the end of the trip? No I don’t see that unless it’s an emergency. What I do see though is... vacations cancelled once again. No new language in the contract about it so it costs them nothing. That I do see. As I said, my opinion.
I was a no voter and did actually vote no. BUT at the same time, glad it passed. I hurts to say that though. Moving on though into what is reality (contract is now in progress), I believe (my personal opinion) Frontier is a great place to be and a great place to get into within the next 12 mths. If so you will upgrade and you will be happy. Reassignment language? It’s lose yes, but we are no longer the companies target as well. The negotiations are over with. As a huge no voter, I honestly do not believe the company has their sights on reassigning us just for the fun of it. In the middle of a trip? Who cares, I’m already working. At the end of the trip? No I don’t see that unless it’s an emergency. What I do see though is... vacations cancelled once again. No new language in the contract about it so it costs them nothing. That I do see. As I said, my opinion.
you’re a huge no voter but you’re glad it passed... that makes sense... you’re posturing... you couldn’t give a single reason you voted no other than the fact you want to tell people you voted no...
I will agree the reassignment language is “lose” but I’d prefer to do the trip on my schedule and go home... the company doesn’t reassign pilots “just for the fun of it”... the company reassigns pilots because this airline is run by an investment bank that is clueless when it comes to the day to day logistics of running an efficient airline... we answer to underpaid and under qualified individuals who would rather throw $hit in the fan and try to clean it up than actually prevent the $hit from hitting the fan...
I voted no for this contact for myriad reasons but the top 3 are... it isnt good enough for a pilot group who does the most in the industry with the least support... we gave far too much flexibility to the company e.g. reassignment language, 3x6 and fdo reserve lines... and that flexibility will eventually undermine your seniority which in turn will affect your qol and ability to make money
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 268
#27
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 214
I'm really starting to doubt any major hiring or pilot shortage. I gladly would have gone but why hide the event away in LinkedIn now?
Do they want quality applicants or just people who live in their basement scouring the internet looking for invite all day?
Do they want quality applicants or just people who live in their basement scouring the internet looking for invite all day?
#28
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,311
It was pretty full.
#30
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 214
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post