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PossibleDeviation 03-23-2022 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by BiffleBalls (Post 3393849)
And forget everything you just learned in the sim...

Or you could be a professional and stay current on your flows? Not too difficult.

BiffleBalls 03-23-2022 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3393854)
Or you could be a professional and stay current on your flows? Not too difficult.

Maybe for a *****en' superstar like you it'd be no problem. For me and many others, it would be more difficult. This is not a good thing, delaying training like that, FYI.

Airbear10 03-23-2022 05:48 PM

When was the Delay announced?

PossibleDeviation 03-23-2022 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by BiffleBalls (Post 3393855)
Maybe for a *****en' superstar like you it'd be no problem. For me and many others, it would be more difficult. This is not a good thing, delaying training like that, FYI.

Never said it was a good thing but happens quite often in the industry. You're getting paid the entire time you wait. You're not getting paid to bull**** and forget your job duties. Again, act like a professional and stay current with what you need to so you can do your job when called.

Excargodog 03-23-2022 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by turbojet28 (Post 3393580)
Its about the big picture. It was not a negotiated and agreed-upon item. By allowing the company to bypass the contractual requirements/processes, it sets a dangerous precedent for future actions/interpretations. I’m sure everyone agrees that hotels should be provided to new hires. But there is a CBA and negotiating process that needs to be honored as well.

Or you can simply agree to a LOA to take NOW what is being offered for NOTHING and reset the baseline. A JCBA will STILL be required and you can then make more progress from the higher baseline.

Unless the INTENT is to screw over the new hires by holding them hostage.


https://i.ibb.co/c6kRRwt/E1-D54-D0-E...3-C756-EA2.jpg

BiffleBalls 03-23-2022 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3393868)
Never said it was a good thing but happens quite often in the industry. You're getting paid the entire time you wait. You're not getting paid to bull**** and forget your job duties. Again, act like a professional and stay current with what you need to so you can do your job when called.

You're brilliant.

PossibleDeviation 03-23-2022 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by BiffleBalls (Post 3393890)
You're brilliant.

You've got a real future ahead of you if you continue with that attitude

BiffleBalls 03-23-2022 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3393892)
You've got a real future ahead of you if you continue with that attitude

Man you make me laugh :)

BiffleBalls 03-23-2022 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3393885)
Or you can simply agree to a LOA to take NOW what is being offered for NOTHING and reset the baseline. A JCBA will STILL be required and you can then make more progress from the higher baseline.

Unless the INTENT is to screw over the new hires by holding them hostage.


https://i.ibb.co/c6kRRwt/E1-D54-D0-E...3-C756-EA2.jpg

And now you. You clearly do not understand what the issue is. Stop posting, read back through a few years of posts and then think a bit.

madmax757 03-23-2022 09:37 PM

I’m usually a smart A$$ on here but this may be my first worthwhile post on APC.
Before I returned from my 6 month Covid COLA and did the “dust of the rust “ sims, I went on 2 short roundtrip flights to observe and see what’s new with operation and just to refresh. It was very helpful. Just putting on the uniform and the airport routine was helpful. I’m a brain dump person so if I don’t do something for a long time I forget.
My suggestion to a new hire waiting IOE for 2 MONTHS - go observe once every 2 weeks, ask the captain if you can load the box , go over every line on a release, wear your uniform and shadow the FO on pre flights. Have your iPad out and follow the checklists and Navigation. Meet the FAs and ask about the safety equipment. Like someone mentioned you are getting full pay and benefits. Put a little effort in so you look sharp when you show up for IOE . Then update apps and drink beer on the rest of your time.
Carryon !


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