You just compared Atlas where you are gone A TON, to F9 where you are home a lot.

Yeah, different places have different pros and cons.

You know why you get brought to CA pay so quick? Cause they are bleeding captains and are junior manning FOs into upgrade.

Yes, 7 on 7 off or more and positive space business class seats to and from work. Captains there take in $500K+ doing that. So the fact about captains making a lot, well you can make the same at other airlines in the same amount of time on property. Frontier isn’t unique in that. Southwest you can make captain money as a FO

got it though, have to live in base and you are home a lot in exchange for that. That’s the big draw… just genuinely confused what the big reason to go to Frontier is now with regionals paying more and offering more in terms of benefits and a plan B to flow

As I suspected. Your hourly rate is wrong, you forgot the bonus (which I don’t recommend but alas), you forgot the days off when calculating hourly rate, you forgot premium and soft time, your upgrade timeline forgets that we didn’t hire anybody for 13 months. Good job!

I only found the AA wholly own carriers doing the captain pay at 750 hours thing. None of Skywest, Republic, Mesa or Endeavor are doing that as far as I could see from their recruitment pages. There are bonus programs at both the regionals and Frontier, but they're probably better at the regionals. You're missing the 15% DC, vacation credit, as well as the stuff the above poster mentioned. Upgrade will likely drop to 2 years here in about 2-3 months.

Republic gives captain pay at 850 hours now. Don’t keep up with Mesa or the others as much.

DC is a huge plus at Frontier. Every other weekend goes critical on the captain side which is 175% pay at my regional.. every airline has their soft pay rules, holiday pay we had captains making 40K as line holders, some over 50K flying over their vacation. $213/hour captains here over 5 years. One LCA made over 70K in December. FO’s clearing 20K for holiday months is normal too.. we all got nice soft pay rules

This is why all the captains at top pay rate and able to flow within 2 years are staying. Money is too good, not to mention the bonuses they receive too.

line holder can easily get 16-18 days off a month at a WO if they please

Skywest offered it as I was on my way out. Not for all, but you had to have X number of hours and have a standing bid for first available upgrade (no base or equipment preference; we also had an “Any” option). That was prior to forced upgrade at 1,000 121 hours. I assume they kept that provision, I think it was part of that dumb TA from last fall. Or maybe it was one of the dozen emails with upgrade incentives.

Anyway I don’t personally know anyone that took it. I sure didn’t. The fact they had to threaten junior man for nearly a year and then actually do it, shows their pay and bonuses and upgrade incentives were enough. And now they’re metering hiring (ironic).

Okay, great. Stay at your regional flying CRJs 4 legs a day. We don’t care.

And that's the big thing...sounds like QOL is probably in the toilet at a lot of regionals with such short staffing. We're nowhere close to that although we have our moments when the weather goes down. Granted, we've moved to a very unfriendly schedule setup for commuters but for those who live near base the QOL is very good. So we get the choice between very decent pay or QOL, or a balance between the 2. For me vacation credit isn't about making money as it is getting the time off. 1 week of vacay turns into at least 2, if not close to 3 with good bidding strategy and a bit of luck.

2-3 legs a day, 4 at worst.. beats the hell out of doing red eyes 💀

SNJ syndrome for riddle rats, with no flight benefits. Nice

This dude really pitching regionals as equivalent or better than F9? GTFOH.

I'm pretty sad/angry at the state of affairs at F9, but suggesting that it's even a contest is laughable. This dude is an rj recruiter or something.