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ZooKeeper 03-08-2019 03:50 PM

Hope it’s not the start of trouble :(

madmax757 03-08-2019 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot2be (Post 2778091)
Not sure. Just got an email a little bit ago. Most people in my interview group are in the same boat. They mentioned unforcasted block hours.

My guess is they underestimated and are surprised at how little open time there is with Reserves being allowed to pickup open time on days off with new contract... I just looked - Denver has 10 pairings for rest of month - LAS 6 pairings MCO 7 pairings etc (Captain). I can’t see FO pairings. This appears to be about 75 percent less open time than pre new contract. So just an educated guess is they may be waiting to see what happens next month and reforecast hiring / upgrades. Anyone want to chime in on my assessment? Just an educated guess on my part.

ZooKeeper 03-08-2019 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by madmax757 (Post 2778143)
My guess is they underestimated and are surprised at how little open time there is with Reserves being allowed to pickup open time on days off with new contract... I just looked - Denver has 10 pairings for rest of month - LAS 6 pairings MCO 7 pairings etc (Captain). I can’t see FO pairings. This appears to be about 75 percent less open time than pre new contract. So just an educated guess is they may be waiting to see what happens next month and reforecast hiring / upgrades. Anyone want to chime in on my assessment? Just an educated guess on my part.

Guess we’ll see if they pause interviews.

Aero1900 03-08-2019 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by madmax757 (Post 2778143)
My guess is they underestimated and are surprised at how little open time there is with Reserves being allowed to pickup open time on days off with new contract... I just looked - Denver has 10 pairings for rest of month - LAS 6 pairings MCO 7 pairings etc (Captain). I can’t see FO pairings. This appears to be about 75 percent less open time than pre new contract. So just an educated guess is they may be waiting to see what happens next month and reforecast hiring / upgrades. Anyone want to chime in on my assessment? Just an educated guess on my part.

Sounds like a good guess to me. This company only has 1 thought process: save money.

PulledBreaker 03-08-2019 05:00 PM

Happens every year, I'm not surprised in the slightest.

ReserveCA 03-08-2019 05:53 PM

So if you live IN BASE bid reserve, fly on days off (over guarantee ), sit at home on reserve days. .......

BayAreaFlyer 03-08-2019 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot2be (Post 2778081)
April class just got pushed back until May.

What date was your class in April?

ASpilot2be 03-08-2019 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by BayAreaFlyer (Post 2778238)
What date was your class in April?

April 1. So maybe it was a April fools joke? Still excited to join Frontier though.

chemtrailhombre 03-08-2019 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot2be (Post 2778248)
April 1. So maybe it was a April fools joke? Still excited to join Frontier though.

Dang I wonder if that will push me back I was told to expect a May class

BayAreaFlyer 03-08-2019 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot2be (Post 2778248)
April 1. So maybe it was a April fools joke? Still excited to join Frontier though.

Hmm I'm in the April 1st class too and I got no such email. Did it say the whole class or was it person specific, moving some people to the May class?

ZooKeeper 03-08-2019 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by chemtrailhombre (Post 2778279)
Dang I wonder if that will push me back I was told to expect a May class

I’m guessing so. Let’s just hope it’s only a one month pause.

BayAreaFlyer 03-08-2019 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot2be (Post 2778248)
April 1. So maybe it was a April fools joke? Still excited to join Frontier though.

Did the email say the whole class was pushed back to May or was it specific to you? I'm also in the April 1st class and got no such email.

BobbyLeeSwagger 03-08-2019 08:26 PM

What are the chances of a west coast base one day?

Trowserchilli 03-08-2019 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by madmax757 (Post 2778143)
My guess is they underestimated and are surprised at how little open time there is with Reserves being allowed to pickup open time on days off with new contract... I just looked - Denver has 10 pairings for rest of month - LAS 6 pairings MCO 7 pairings etc (Captain). I can’t see FO pairings. This appears to be about 75 percent less open time than pre new contract. So just an educated guess is they may be waiting to see what happens next month and reforecast hiring / upgrades. Anyone want to chime in on my assessment? Just an educated guess on my part.

Pretty accurate. The whole contract is set up to allow getting by with less pilots.

emersonbiguns 03-08-2019 08:58 PM

Yes, it looks like flying isn't being added as quickly as pilots.

The contract appears to be very effective at getting pilot utilization up.

I'm surprised they weren't ready for the changes.

I'm seven months in and don't get called on reserve, let alone being able to pick up open time/aggressive reserve... There isn't any...

PC12 03-09-2019 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 2778310)
What are the chances of a west coast base one day?

You don’t wanna commute to PHL with me?

ZooKeeper 03-09-2019 09:28 AM

Oh yeah forgot to mention the other news. Flow through has been inked with compass and Gojet. To go alone with TSA.

NxNW 03-09-2019 02:13 PM

April 1 Class
 

Originally Posted by ASpilot2be (Post 2778248)
April 1. So maybe it was a April fools joke? Still excited to join Frontier though.

Any idea if it was the whole April 1st class or just a few people?

ASpilot2be 03-09-2019 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by NxNW (Post 2778715)
Any idea if it was the whole April 1st class or just a few people?

That I couldn't tell you. I know it's everybody from my interview group that was scheduled for April 1.

BayAreaFlyer 03-10-2019 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by ASpilot2be (Post 2778725)
That I couldn't tell you. I know it's everybody from my interview group that was scheduled for April 1.

When did you interview?

ASpilot2be 03-10-2019 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by BayAreaFlyer (Post 2779124)
When did you interview?

I interviewed on February 14.

ZooKeeper 03-10-2019 11:00 AM

Has anyone that is scheduled for the April 1st clsss NOT received word of being pushed to May?

sobo 03-10-2019 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by ZooKeeper (Post 2779219)
Has anyone that is scheduled for the April 1st clsss NOT received word of being pushed to May?

Obviously this doesn’t answer your question, but I was moved to May from the April class.

ZooKeeper 03-10-2019 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by sobo (Post 2779226)
Obviously this doesn’t answer your question, but I was moved to May from the April class.

When did you interview?

sobo 03-10-2019 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by ZooKeeper (Post 2779258)
When did you interview?

2/5. I think everyone from my interview group was moved to May. However, there is one guy that I cannot confirm was moved and still may have an April date.

BayAreaFlyer 03-10-2019 05:00 PM

I interviewed January 3rd, I’m in the April first class and I have not received an email saying it was pushed back a month.

BayAreaFlyer 03-10-2019 05:03 PM

I interviewed January 3rd, I’m in the April 1st class and have not received an email saying it was pushed back a month.

BayAreaFlyer 03-10-2019 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by sobo (Post 2779226)
Obviously this doesn’t answer your question, but I was moved to May from the April class.

I'm in the April 1st class and have not received and email saying the class has been pushed back. I interviewed January 3rd.

BayAreaFlyer 03-10-2019 05:20 PM

I am in the April 1st class and have not received and email saying the class has been postponed. I interviewed January 3rd.

BayAreaFlyer 03-10-2019 09:40 PM

Sorry for the multiple posts the forum wasn't letting me post and now I have no idea how to delete them.

Fugitive 03-11-2019 05:10 AM

Interviewed Jan.24 and selected April class, but was notified of the new class date of May 6th.

ZooKeeper 03-11-2019 05:40 AM

Sounds like it’s probably the whole class then.

drivinghome 03-11-2019 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by ZooKeeper (Post 2779742)
Sounds like it’s probably the whole class then.

And if it is the whole class, I’m guessing this will affect the May class, and so on.

emersonbiguns 03-11-2019 06:07 AM

If it looks like you're an anomaly in the class scheduling pattern, I'd email whomever the latest contact is and ask. I was almost left out of the original class that I had planned and been told I would be in.

I'm sure they are task saturated with all the changes and there are going to be things that get dropped and emails that don't get sent.

BayAreaFlyer 03-11-2019 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by emersonbiguns (Post 2779768)
If it looks like you're an anomaly in the class scheduling pattern, I'd email whomever the latest contact is and ask. I was almost left out of the original class that I had planned and been told I would be in.

I'm sure they are task saturated with all the changes and there are going to be things that get dropped and emails that don't get sent.

Just talked to head of HR, April 1st class is still on.

Wheelswatch 03-11-2019 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by BayAreaFlyer (Post 2779895)
Just talked to head of HR, April 1st class is still on.

Did they perhaps just reduce the size? Or is it altogether back on?

ZooKeeper 03-11-2019 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by BayAreaFlyer (Post 2779895)
Just talked to head of HR, April 1st class is still on.

Great news for us poolies!

BayAreaFlyer 03-11-2019 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Wheelswatch (Post 2779905)
Did they perhaps just reduce the size? Or is it altogether back on?

He said some people have deferred and that he has been getting a few people asking him about the class and he is not sure were the info that it has been pushed back to May is coming from.

Punkah Louvre 03-11-2019 10:29 AM

Rumor Control
 

Originally Posted by BayAreaFlyer (Post 2779912)
He said some people have deferred and that he has been getting a few people asking him about the class and he is not sure were the info that it has been pushed back to May is coming from.

It appears to be an unsubstantiated and baseless rumor.
Also; we saw Ed Bastian from Delta in the Emerald Tower this morning, and apparently there's'a 787 order announcement later this week..
Nothing to see here. Back to your lives Citizens..
//PL

ZooKeeper 03-11-2019 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Punkah Louvre (Post 2779950)
It appears to be an unsubstantiated and baseless rumor.
Also; we saw Ed Bastian from Delta in the Emerald Tower this morning, and apparently there's'a 787 order announcement later this week..
Nothing to see here. Back to your lives Citizens..
//PL

Not sure it’s a rumor when I’ve spoken to 3 people that got emails about being switched to May.


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