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Originally Posted by HeisenbergBlue (Post 2789558)

He does have a point.... Fresh wound or not, if all you want to do is still b**** about things that you are angry about after the fact, oh and things that other Legacy Airlines have like reassignment, then maybe an application isn’t a bad idea. It’s time to let go of the past and look forward to the next negotiation. Don’t forget, but stop living in the past

I don't disagree with you in principle. Complaining has very limited value. I try very hard not to traffic 'too much' in it unless it has a constructive purpose; like how our complaints about the sick memo helped achieve its recindence. ( Is recindence even a real word?:confused:)

According to CNBC the lifetime rate of return of the S&P 500 is 9.8%

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/18/the-...full-year.html

We're subsidizing the operation out of our pockets.

Personally speaking

I'm pretty damned happy btw, nowadays. After watching management and our pilot group's behavior (MEC included) during negotiations I've disavowed myself of any urge to take pride in working here. If I stay it'll be to fly my trips safely, treat people well, cash the check, and go home with no attachment to who I work for. And that's sad because that's not "me." But what's the alternative? Be proud of working at a place that has wh0ring yourself out engrained in its DNA? It's just not a good union shop.

FARRRRRR more good stuff than bad though. It's really is an amazing flying job and I have (and will continue) encouraged people to come here.

It is a big-boy-airline contract and maybe it is amazing that our NC/MEC managed to pull off this contract in spite of this management team. Maybe the NMB told Indigo to "do the deal" comparatively to NK or it's all over. Who knows. But let's not forget how this pilot group truly behaved when bent over a barrel. From the "top" down the pilot group said, "may I have another" with the incentivized flying.

So again, let's not pretend that didn't all happen. Let's not pretend like we stupidly signed up for the same problem the majors are facing now. We don't need to gloss over the gross inadequacies of this new contract and pretend like they don't exist. If this place has hundreds of airplanes and ~4k pilots, PBS, and the optimization software then we'll all be on reserve. The problem is that next time, in 7 years, we'll see this progression again. The pilot group can't help itself.

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Originally Posted by ZooKeeper (Post 2789244)

You must be the captain of the frontier flight I commuted on yesterday lol.

Told him I was joining the frontier ranks when I asked for the ride and he immediately went on to tell me I was now the lowest paid airbus pilot in the world blah blah blah. I won’t let one bad apple dampen my excitement at the opportunity I have.

He wasn’t lying. You will be the lowest paid Airbus pilot. That’s not an exciting opportunity.

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Originally Posted by ClearCreek (Post 2789679)

He wasn’t lying. You will be the lowest paid Airbus pilot. That’s not an exciting opportunity.

Well to me the prospect of making good money and having pretty good QOL is pretty exciting. Especially what im coming from.

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Originally Posted by ZooKeeper (Post 2789695)

Well to me the prospect of making good money and having pretty good QOL is pretty exciting. Especially what im coming from.

Hey man, listen. Welcome to F9 and not a regional. A step forward in my book and it should be in yours. Maybe after 10+ years you will get cynical but for now enjoy the new type and being paid like a professional for once. It’s not all rainbows and sunshine but you are damn sure it’s better then a regional. Enjoy.

Always remember, APC = Another Pilot Complaining.