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madmax757 05-02-2019 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by TurboFanMan (Post 2813235)
United is buying us, you heard it here first!!!!

Kindof a possibility - since United is rebranding and painting the fleet again.

flightlevels 05-02-2019 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by PulledBreaker (Post 2813179)
Good. I had recently talked to one of your pilots and they said hiring and upgrades over there were stagnant and had been for a while. 56, sounds lofty. I hope it happens.

My buddy interviewed at NK last month. Was told to expect a October class.

flysooner9 05-02-2019 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by flightlevels (Post 2813320)
My buddy interviewed at NK last month. Was told to expect a October class.

I interviewed last week and got a July clsss...

Aero1900 05-02-2019 08:53 PM

The answer to every single thing that Indigo does is cost cutting.

They told us in a memo that they have realized more efficiency in the new contract than they expected. We are fat on pilots, so of course they will slow down hiring and even offer a few colas. Saves money.

Now, if an IPO is coming, which I believe it is, if they can stop hiring for 3 months (a financial quarter) it makes the numbers look even better. Training new hires is not cheap.

I believe an IPO is more likely than any merger. Its simple, it raises serious cash and then they are free to move on and do anything they like. Mergers are messy and complicated.

SFA320 05-03-2019 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 2813365)
The answer to every single thing that Indigo does is cost cutting.

They told us in a memo that they have realized more efficiency in the new contract than they expected. We are fat on pilots, so of course they will slow down hiring and even offer a few colas. Saves money.

Now, if an IPO is coming, which I believe it is, if they can stop hiring for 3 months (a financial quarter) it makes the numbers look even better. Training new hires is not cheap.

I believe an IPO is more likely than any merger. Its simple, it raises serious cash and then they are free to move on and do anything they like. Mergers are messy and complicated.

From what I’ve heard, currently we have about 130ish extra pilots. I guess less pilots are needed because of “efficiencies” the new contract has. It sounds about right though, as they are canceling/delaying six classes. Hopefully they decided to have a class sooner for those stuck in a holding pattern. We will see how the summer goes.

Happydayz 05-03-2019 06:34 AM

One of the guys in the holding pool. Got a phone call and it appears classes around December, possibly earlier. I was wondering about airframes. Are they receiving them as per schedule? If so, how many pilots per airframe? 130 seems to be a lot!
Also, congrats on the pilots being able to pick up trips etc.. and make some good cash!!!

HappyD

F9pilot15 05-03-2019 07:12 AM

As far as I know they are on schedule. I don’t really understand why we don’t take on aircraft all summer and then take on 13 by the end of the year. Anyone care to explain?

TurboFanMan 05-03-2019 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 2813365)
The answer to every single thing that Indigo does is cost cutting.

They told us in a memo that they have realized more efficiency in the new contract than they expected. We are fat on pilots, so of course they will slow down hiring and even offer a few colas. Saves money.

Now, if an IPO is coming, which I believe it is, if they can stop hiring for 3 months (a financial quarter) it makes the numbers look even better. Training new hires is not cheap.

I believe an IPO is more likely than any merger. Its simple, it raises serious cash and then they are free to move on and do anything they like. Mergers are messy and complicated.

He’s my thoughts on this. A IPO is coming very soon. The company isn’t gonna open the books and let everybody see them to settle the Fapa. They like holding their cards, and will do so for the IPO. Time is not on their side and they know that. IPO is coming, if not a buyout. Guaranteed to happen before any settlement on Fapa.

SFA320 05-03-2019 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by F9pilot15 (Post 2813517)
As far as I know they are on schedule. I don’t really understand why we don’t take on aircraft all summer and then take on 13 by the end of the year. Anyone care to explain?

As far as I know they are on schedule. We have 85 planes right now with 1410ish pilots. Right around 16.5 pilots per plane. I’ve heard we are overstaffed by about 130 pilots. So they want around 15 or 15.5 pilots per plane. We end the year with 98 planes. So I’m guessing that should be around 1480 pilots. The new “efficiencies” equate to a pilot or a pilot and a half less per plane.
This is just me running math off what I’ve heard while flying. A lot of premium trips have been popping up in MCO and PHL so we shall see if my speculation holds up. If I remember right this happened last year. But then they ran upgrade and new hire classes in September instead of December. I’m hoping that happens again.
Good luck to all those in pool.

Aero1900 05-03-2019 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by SFA320 (Post 2813601)
As far as I know they are on schedule. We have 85 planes right now with 1410ish pilots. Right around 16.5 pilots per plane. I’ve heard we are overstaffed by about 130 pilots. So they want around 15 or 15.5 pilots per plane. We end the year with 98 planes. So I’m guessing that should be around 1480 pilots. The new “efficiencies” equate to a pilot or a pilot and a half less per plane.
This is just me running math off what I’ve heard while flying. A lot of premium trips have been popping up in MCO and PHL so we shall see if my speculation holds up. If I remember right this happened last year. But then they ran upgrade and new hire classes in September instead of December. I’m hoping that happens again.
Good luck to all those in pool.

I agree with all that.

I feel like this is just another knee jerk, overreaction by the company. Pat Ryan probably told BB that guys are picking up open time and the new pairings are more efficient leaving us fat on pilots. Biffle probably got real excited and said stop hiring for 6 months! Then, about 3 months from now, they will realize that they overreacted and start running classes again.

I still believe an IPO is coming, but j also believe they will start hiring again well before December


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