HairyCannonball

I dunno. I have been abused a lot more at other companies. I am happy to be here. Take that for what it cost you.

CantStayAway

It is 3. This is a change from our previous contract. Some used to game the system by swapping into 2 days of reserve and they’d hardly get used. It used to be totally legal but now it’s 3.

Choppy

Thanks CantStayAway

fcoolaiddrinker

This will most likely be true in pbs but right now there are scenarios where you end up with less than 3 rdp. Mostly Transition conflicts from line holder to res with carry in (you force an rdp drop due to 117). Pretty good deal because your pay protected for the rdp drop plus the carry in is above guarantee as long as it falls on a day off (next day rdp and possibly a second rdp if the first doesn’t give you 30hrs (usually a res) gone and pay protected). There are other scenarios. The rule is you can’t you can’t trade or swap to create less than 3 rdp. Basically there is no minimum number. FWIW.

fcoolaiddrinker

I don’t want to come across as argumentative or always correcting people. I’m here to help. I was in a union position that helped Alpa attorneys get up to speed on our old contract when we voted them in. I’m not a negotiator but helped them as well. Having said that I’m not always right so it doesn’t hurt my feelings to be corrected (in a professional way please). Just trying to help pilots with the many Easter eggs available in this deal. That’s it.

Choppy

Thanks for the good info to everyone that responded.

emersonbiguns

Long call questions that I don’t see in the CBA.

Once you’re available at 00:01, are you on the hook until 24:00? So, once you start a five day, long call group of days, are you assignable from 00:01 the first day to 10:00 the last day?

It won’t work for me if I can get called at 19:00 for a 07:00 show the next day with my commuting options.

Thanks

Punkah Louvre

Correct.
Though you can be assigned a 2pm report on your last day for example. You are automatically released at 10am if you've not been assigned a trip...
Thats the risk with LC. It's not a good deal for some people. You do need to think through the timelines and travel options. It's mostly pointless to bid for if you'll just have to spend the 5 days in your crashpad anyway.
117 wise, you're actually not on duty per se. You get the call from CS at any time, day or night; and put into rest for 12 hours. You are not in rest following a trip, just contactable. I've been called at 8am after blocking in at 5am and given a 8pm report.
The good news is, that with the growth we expect; you're probably not going to sit RSV for long.
Something else to consider is the character of the trips in each base. PHL is ~50% day trips for example; hight credit Punta Cana, San Juan et al, as much as 19 to 20 days off..
ORD folks seem to love their trips. I still can't find where to meet the hotel van there...
LAS is predominantly Redeyes. You're welcome to those..
Best
//PL

emersonbiguns

Thanks, that's what I was afraid of.

135121

May not be the right thread but how soon do family travel benefits kick in after starting training?

Thanks!