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Old 06-21-2019 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ULLI
He is a pilot, imposible to make them happy.

Back on topic.
Has anyone actually seen numbers for the xlr performance wise? Airbus claims FL - uk is doable.
4700nm. Miami-Rome and NY-London per Airbus....
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Old 06-21-2019 | 11:26 AM
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Since we put so many more people on our 321s, we are likely to run into range issues due to weights.

Biffle said in one of the interviews that they might want this plane to just do 230 passenger transcons.
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Old 06-21-2019 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900

Biffle said in one of the interviews that they might want this plane to just do 230 passenger transcons.
To lazy to listen to anything BB says but that's interesting. Really, what's the point as the non XLR can do that now. If you need to stop for fuel, then just stop for fuel.
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Old 06-21-2019 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Yabadaba
To lazy to listen to anything BB says but that's interesting. Really, what's the point as the non XLR can do that now. If you need to stop for fuel, then just stop for fuel.
It can't. The 321 loaded with 230 pax can only do PHL to LAS. NY to LA is out of reach.

The 321s that American run on transcons have extra business class and extra legroom economy seats. I think they only carry 155 pax, allowing them to top off the tanks and not worry about the weights. Turns out adding half a plane worth of folks to the same kind of plane has consequences
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Old 06-21-2019 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
It can't. The 321 loaded with 230 pax can only do PHL to LAS. NY to LA is out of reach.

The 321s that American run on transcons have extra business class and extra legroom economy seats. I think they only carry 155 pax, allowing them to top off the tanks and not worry about the weights. Turns out adding half a plane worth of folks to the same kind of plane has consequences
I have no idea what my heaviest TO has been in a 321 but I haven’t ever had the need to use bump. Think I’ve only flown with one CA who said he used it. When the plane feels heavy to me we still seem to be 12-15 below max TO so I’m surprised it doesn’t have the capabilities.
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Old 06-21-2019 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Yabadaba
I have no idea what my heaviest TO has been in a 321 but I haven’t ever had the need to use bump. Think I’ve only flown with one CA who said he used it. When the plane feels heavy to me we still seem to be 12-15 below max TO so I’m surprised it doesn’t have the capabilities.
I’ve seen 193k lbs toga was more then suffecient, it did very good actually.
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Old 06-21-2019 | 06:05 PM
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If we really only wanted them for transcons we would’ve just bought the 321NEO LR version (the kind JetBlue will be using for their Europe flying). XLR is over kill for that. I think Franky is looking forward to future markets and BB was caught off guard by the decision so he’s just trying not to commit to a certain destination. We all know they can barely decide and keep routes 6 months from now. What they plan to fly in 4.5-5 years is anyone’s guess, but I’d take a good guess and say we will be flying somewhere far over water with them.
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Old 06-21-2019 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Notarealpilot
If we really only wanted them for transcons we would’ve just bought the 321NEO LR version (the kind JetBlue will be using for their Europe flying). XLR is over kill for that. I think Franky is looking forward to future markets and BB was caught off guard by the decision so he’s just trying not to commit to a certain destination. We all know they can barely decide and keep routes 6 months from now. What they plan to fly in 4.5-5 years is anyone’s guess, but I’d take a good guess and say we will be flying somewhere far over water with them.
The same BB that was in ground school denying Orlando was going to be a base... the day before it became a base.
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Old 06-22-2019 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Yabadaba
The same BB that was in ground school denying Orlando was going to be a base... the day before it became a base.
No fan of his, but what to expect him to do? Did we forget that their never was supposed to be an MCO base? it was going to be ATL, but that was bungled through loose lips.
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Old 06-22-2019 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RustyChain
No fan of his, but what to expect him to do? Did we forget that their never was supposed to be an MCO base? it was going to be ATL, but that was bungled through loose lips.
Good point.
Do we want our management team blabbing our one, two or five year plans to the industry just so UAL can have plenty of time to cut us off. I will take misinformation and or no information as opposed to what the management clowns over at Jetblue do.
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