Will F9 ever resume classes?
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Will F9 ever resume classes?
I interviewed in March and haven’t heard anything of substance in over 3 months. Is F9 planning on running classes anytime soon? I keep hearing December.
Does anyone know what the hold up is? You would think will all the growth that they’d be running more classes than just the 4 and a half they did this year.
Needless to say it’s a little worrisome considering how much hiring they told us they’d be doing. Is F9 still conducting interviews?
Does anyone know what the hold up is? You would think will all the growth that they’d be running more classes than just the 4 and a half they did this year.
Needless to say it’s a little worrisome considering how much hiring they told us they’d be doing. Is F9 still conducting interviews?
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I interviewed in March and haven’t heard anything of substance in over 3 months. Is F9 planning on running classes anytime soon? I keep hearing December.
Lots of people share your frustrations. Yes there will be classes. “Soon” depends on your definition of the word.
Does anyone know what the hold up is? You would think will all the growth that they’d be running more classes than just the 4 and a half they did this year.
The hold up depends on who or what you believe. Theories are broad and range from...leaning the mixture in preparation for an IPO or merger, “efficiencies” realized by the new contract, limiting training to better staff the airline over peak travel season, imminent alien invasion in which all regional pilots will be asked to fly F-18s ala Russell Case in Independence Day.
Needless to say it’s a little worrisome considering how much hiring they told us they’d be doing. Is F9 still conducting interviews?
To my knowledge, not doing interviews in Denver but doing some limited recruiting at fairs. I don’t think anybody needs to worry. The airplanes are still coming so hiring is inevitable. Sorry for your delay but my bet is we run classes sooner than December.
Lots of people share your frustrations. Yes there will be classes. “Soon” depends on your definition of the word.
Does anyone know what the hold up is? You would think will all the growth that they’d be running more classes than just the 4 and a half they did this year.
The hold up depends on who or what you believe. Theories are broad and range from...leaning the mixture in preparation for an IPO or merger, “efficiencies” realized by the new contract, limiting training to better staff the airline over peak travel season, imminent alien invasion in which all regional pilots will be asked to fly F-18s ala Russell Case in Independence Day.
Needless to say it’s a little worrisome considering how much hiring they told us they’d be doing. Is F9 still conducting interviews?
To my knowledge, not doing interviews in Denver but doing some limited recruiting at fairs. I don’t think anybody needs to worry. The airplanes are still coming so hiring is inevitable. Sorry for your delay but my bet is we run classes sooner than December.
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I interviewed in March and haven’t heard anything of substance in over 3 months. Is F9 planning on running classes anytime soon? I keep hearing December.
Does anyone know what the hold up is? You would think will all the growth that they’d be running more classes than just the 4 and a half they did this year.
Needless to say it’s a little worrisome considering how much hiring they told us they’d be doing. Is F9 still conducting interviews?
Does anyone know what the hold up is? You would think will all the growth that they’d be running more classes than just the 4 and a half they did this year.
Needless to say it’s a little worrisome considering how much hiring they told us they’d be doing. Is F9 still conducting interviews?
They are actively looking for second hand airplanes as well. However nothing from training as far earlier classes then states.
Personally i would continue applying to other airlines, if you haven't been already.
Dec seems far away, lot of people think it will be way before Dec, however not officially.
Just be prepared to have like a one week notice for a class in Sept, would not surprise anyone here if they did that.
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As far as I know they are still doing meet the chief events.
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I'm sorry for your frustration in waiting so long for a class date. I get it.
During contact negotiations, which became pretty hostile at times, a majority of the pilot group stopped picking up open time and taking voluntary junior assignments. This lead the company to become artificially short staffed. The company was hiring like crazy during that time.
Now that the contact is settled, there is no shame in picking up open time. Plus, guys are very eager to make money as we were so underpaid for so long. Also, the contract probably does require fewer pilots per plane than the old contract. Not a lot, but a little.
The credit override at 82 hours is a big motivator for guys to pick up open time which of course means we need less pilots. So, I believe that we are in this temporary hiring freeze until we adjust to an equilibrium at a new, slightly less pilot per plane ratio. Once we hit that new ratio, hiring will resume full speed ahead.
From what I can see (looking at open time, and the number of premium trips) I don't think we are very far from hiring resuming.
During contact negotiations, which became pretty hostile at times, a majority of the pilot group stopped picking up open time and taking voluntary junior assignments. This lead the company to become artificially short staffed. The company was hiring like crazy during that time.
Now that the contact is settled, there is no shame in picking up open time. Plus, guys are very eager to make money as we were so underpaid for so long. Also, the contract probably does require fewer pilots per plane than the old contract. Not a lot, but a little.
The credit override at 82 hours is a big motivator for guys to pick up open time which of course means we need less pilots. So, I believe that we are in this temporary hiring freeze until we adjust to an equilibrium at a new, slightly less pilot per plane ratio. Once we hit that new ratio, hiring will resume full speed ahead.
From what I can see (looking at open time, and the number of premium trips) I don't think we are very far from hiring resuming.
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[QUOTE=Aero1900;2858321]I'm sorry for your frustration in waiting so long for a class date. I get it.
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I think the biggest frustration is little to no further communications from HR. I sent an e-mail about a week ago, still no reply.
I'm not by any means wavering, I made my commitment. However, communication is a core to good mgt/pilot work climate.
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I think the biggest frustration is little to no further communications from HR. I sent an e-mail about a week ago, still no reply.
I'm not by any means wavering, I made my commitment. However, communication is a core to good mgt/pilot work climate.
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Understood. And unfortunately, as good of a place to work as this is, its the pilot group and not management that makes it that way.
The HR folks probably don't know any more than we do. I assume that one day in a management meeting someone will mention that we are looking to be getting short staffed and they will resume classes. HR will find out the same day the rest of us will that hiring is to resume.
I'm sorry for your frustration in waiting so long for a class date. I get it.
QUOTE]
I think the biggest frustration is little to no further communications from HR. I sent an e-mail about a week ago, still no reply.
I'm not by any means wavering, I made my commitment. However, communication is a core to good mgt/pilot work climate.
QUOTE]
I think the biggest frustration is little to no further communications from HR. I sent an e-mail about a week ago, still no reply.
I'm not by any means wavering, I made my commitment. However, communication is a core to good mgt/pilot work climate.
The HR folks probably don't know any more than we do. I assume that one day in a management meeting someone will mention that we are looking to be getting short staffed and they will resume classes. HR will find out the same day the rest of us will that hiring is to resume.
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Well, it sure isn’t stopping Mgt here from pulling pilots off the line for sick calls and fatigue reporting, so I call bs on your assertion that we are “struggling to keep (its sic our) nose above water DAILY”.....
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