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Old 11-14-2019, 03:40 PM
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I agree - any idea how long it takes to reconfigure the seats and a custom animal paint job ? 2 months maybe ?
2-3 months. 4-6 months for a new hire to be fully line qualified. So the timing works out
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:54 PM
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4-6 months? Only if there’s significant wait for sim or something. Should only take 3 months from day 1 to sitting RSV.
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Old 11-14-2019, 05:01 PM
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So according to the podcast in comply. 2 new deliveries in December plus 15 net in 2020 - then add the 4 Thomas Cook planes, Thats 21 net airframes by end of 2020 - 20 percent fleet increase. (All the 319s returned in 2020) Does my math sound correct ?

Should be an exciting year !
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Old 11-14-2019, 05:22 PM
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So according to the podcast in comply. 2 new deliveries in December plus 15 net in 2020 - then add the 4 Thomas Cook planes, Thats 21 net airframes by end of 2020 - 20 percent fleet increase. (All the 319s returned in 2020) Does my math sound correct ?

Should be an exciting year !
The podcast did not mention any 321s. All our announced new aircraft for 2020 are 320neos. BL did drop some 'potential upside' teasers in there, but while they had an opportunity and audience to announce these still rumored 321s, they did not. Make of that what you will.
Personally I believe we're getting 5. because most of the rumors here do seem to have sone fire behind the smoke, but they're playing this close to the chest back in HQ...
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The podcast did not mention any 321s. All our announced new aircraft for 2020 are 320neos. BL did drop some 'potential upside' teasers in there, but while they had an opportunity and audience to announce these still rumored 321s, they did not. Make of that what you will.
Personally I believe we're getting 5. because most of the rumors here do seem to have sone fire behind the smoke, but they're playing this close to the chest back in HQ...
5 Were recently confirmed in recurrent.
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5 Were recently confirmed in recurrent.
Fantastic!
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Old 11-15-2019, 07:13 AM
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They are careful to announce the new leases because there are plenty of hiccups between now and getting put online. One of the big hurtles is they need to all pass the lease return inspection. I don’t think it will be a problem based on Thomas Cook’s reputation but if they were coming from say a small defunct carrier you don’t really know the kind’ve shape the planes are in until they get in them and open stuff up.
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4-6 months? Only if there’s significant wait for sim or something. Should only take 3 months from day 1 to sitting RSV.
I was 4.5 months. No sim delay, and a delay for IOE. I would guess if we are ramping up this fast, new hires and upgrades, then 4+ months might be an average. Anyone know if we have more Check Airmen coming on as fast too?
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I was 4.5 months. No sim delay, and a delay for IOE. I would guess if we are ramping up this fast, new hires and upgrades, then 4+ months might be an average. Anyone know if we have more Check Airmen coming on as fast too?
The new guy running the training department said they are bringing in Airbus instructors that would be trained on Frontier SOP and only train Frontier new hires. He said the needed ramp up in training capacity really leaves us no choice. Anybody know why DW is returning to the line? I honestly don't know but I imagine stuff like this has something to do with it.
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The new guy running the training department said they are bringing in Airbus instructors that would be trained on Frontier SOP and only train Frontier new hires. He said the needed ramp up in training capacity really leaves us no choice. Anybody know why DW is returning to the line? I honestly don't know but I imagine stuff like this has something to do with it.
Reading his note, it's clear to me he's leaving because his vision conflicts with theirs.

The excuse they have no choice is false in my opinion. If they'd continued modest hiring for the last several months, they wouldn't be up against any wall, but that costs money with pilots sitting on RSV.

The reason they're doing this is because it further cuts costs, pure and simple.

Maybe that's a good thing, maybe it isn't.
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