Frontier Rotor Transition Program (RTP)
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At my old airline I used to do interviews and every ATP instructor I interviewed was very sharp and competent. Helicopter pilots are known to be single pilot cowboys. At least ATP guys are trained from the ground up to be CRM focused airline pilots.
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I'd takes an ATP CFI over a helicopter pilot.
At my old airline I used to do interviews and every ATP instructor I interviewed was very sharp and competent. Helicopter pilots are known to be single pilot cowboys. At least ATP guys are trained from the ground up to be CRM focused airline pilots.
At my old airline I used to do interviews and every ATP instructor I interviewed was very sharp and competent. Helicopter pilots are known to be single pilot cowboys. At least ATP guys are trained from the ground up to be CRM focused airline pilots.
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This reads like someone who has no idea of what military helicopter pilots are like and the rigors, training, discipline, CRM, etc. required to operate in the military environment. That may be true about some civilian helicopter dudes, but that’s far from reality when it comes to mil rotorheads.
A surprisingly large number of civilian helicopter pilots fly VFR only, and are generally a lot more cowboy in their thinking than a crewed airline flight deck. Helicopters are just a totally different animal and often require very different thinking. Flying a vfr only equipped helicopter - single pilot is about as different a kind of flying from what we do as possible. I personally have an intimate knowledge of some of the stuff going on at a large helicopter operation. And I don't like what I see.
That being said, obviously there are fantastic helicopter pilots. But there are also a relatively large number of crazy cowboy pilots. But the reality is, there is a looming pilot shortage and airlines like Frontier are going to have to get creative. We need to hire more than 1000 pilots in the next 4 years. They need to look at different options to get there. I get that. From my experience, I would take an ATP CFI who has over 1000 hrs of dual flight instruction given in a twin engine airplane over a helicopter pilot. It's not up to me though.
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This reads like someone who has no idea of what military helicopter pilots are like and the rigors, training, discipline, CRM, etc. required to operate in the military environment. That may be true about some civilian helicopter dudes, but that’s far from reality when it comes to mil rotorheads.
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My knowledge of helicopter pilots is from a large civilian operation. That's where I expect guys to apply to Frontier from. We won't be taking the badass special ops dudes who landed in Bin Ladens compound..... unfortunately
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I'd takes an ATP CFI over a helicopter pilot.
At my old airline I used to do interviews and every ATP instructor I interviewed was very sharp and competent. Helicopter pilots are known to be single pilot cowboys. At least ATP guys are trained from the ground up to be CRM focused airline pilots.
At my old airline I used to do interviews and every ATP instructor I interviewed was very sharp and competent. Helicopter pilots are known to be single pilot cowboys. At least ATP guys are trained from the ground up to be CRM focused airline pilots.
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I'd takes an ATP CFI over a helicopter pilot.
At my old airline I used to do interviews and every ATP instructor I interviewed was very sharp and competent. Helicopter pilots are known to be single pilot cowboys. At least ATP guys are trained from the ground up to be CRM focused airline pilots.
At my old airline I used to do interviews and every ATP instructor I interviewed was very sharp and competent. Helicopter pilots are known to be single pilot cowboys. At least ATP guys are trained from the ground up to be CRM focused airline pilots.
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