Pretty sure Philly is still more junior than Miami as of the last captain award.

 

All of these numbers should be changing rapidly in theory right? The new planes have to go somewhere, so unless they continue to open up bases, current bases should grow. Especially MCO and DEN?

 

Rapid growth will fuel rapid change. We have problems with gate getting gates pretty much everywhere. I can see some growth with MCO, but not DEN. With DEN, you may be looking at a few hundred people that want to get back to denver after upgrading somewhere else. But who knows for sure.

 

its all beans in the pot... right now they run the show and they don’t have a BOD or shareholders to answer to... if they figure out an IPO is more lucrative, they’ll probably do it but they’re trying to do something different now... it’s not a cash flip like spirit was...[/QUOTE]

Spirit wasn’t supposed to be a cash flip, they only exited their investment in Spirit to raise capital to buy Frontier in cash. Frontier was nearly a full stake buy and was a bargain. Franke admitted this much, saying he first tried to get Spirit to purchase Frontier. Case in point, the only other large airline investment they’ve exited is Whizz, due to the recent changes in EU law for foreign ownership.

I think they knew a while back they had cash coming from Whizz and they no longer needed the IPO money from Frontier for their near-term investment strategy. Frontier won’t go public until they need cash again and the market for IPOs promotes it.

IMO, Indigo is here to stay and it could be a while before they take Frontier public.

 

Can anyone chime in with info on your ORD base? How long is reserve, how long until you can hold as a new fo, most junior captain, etc.

thank you!

 

The junior captains that were awarded LAS in the latest base trade have less than 4 years seniority. I guess technically, they will start there in April. The junior guy is just shy of being a 427 number.

 

Where do you see that? The Jr CA going to Vegas on the last base trade in January is way senior to a 427###. I've been here over 4 years now and can't hold LAS CA, especially while DEN is shrinking.

 

your looking at the bid not the award. Happens all the time. The jr guy to get awarded las captain on the base trade was an 11 thousand number. He’s been here 14 years. Las is growing senior fast on the captain side. That will continue as den shrinks unless another western base opens.

 

While the junior pilot may be in PHL I was talking more over-arching themes. I’m currently in the right seat but if I were in the left seat in PHL I’d be on reserve. Starting in April and based on the “what if” I would easily hold a line in MIA long before PHL.

 

Just looked at it again. You are right. My mistake.