MtnPeakCruiser

Furlough notice is not 60 days. It is 21 days unless they declare Force Majeure and bypass contract language, in which case they could send out written notice tomorrow that your are furloughed in one week (as an example). And since what’s happening could qualify for Force Majeure, they could also deny your furlough longevity pay. Read the contract below.

Section 23.C. NOTICE OF FURLOUGH

Except where precluded by circumstances beyond the Company’s control, any Pilot furloughed from the Company shall receive at least 21 days written notice via certified mail or shall continue to be paid until 21 days from the date of of notice postmark. This pay shall be prorated at the rate of 1/30th of the Monthly Pay Guarantee for each day. Such notice shall be sent to the Pilot’s last known address. Each Pilot shall be responsible for keeping the Company advised of his current mailing address.

23.D. FURLOUGH PAY AND BENEFITS

Upon furlough, and in addition to any pay due in 23.C. above, a Pilot shall receive 1 week of pay (7/30th of Monthly Guarantee) for each full year of Longevity up to a total of 6 weeks of pay, except where a furlough is caused by circumstances beyond the Company’s control. A Pilot with less than 1 year of Longevity shall not receive furlough pay based on Longevity.

Note: more details on this section, reference your contract.

Pilottim79

The rumor is we are seeking or getting 500 million in bailout. That would hopefully come with the string attached of continued service and no furloughs. At least for a while.

Andy

There are exceptions to WARN. This one applies:
Unforeseeable business circumstances. This exception applies to both closings and layoffs that are caused by business circumstances that were not reasonably foreseeable at the time notice would otherwise have been required. An important indicator of a business circumstance that is not reasonably foreseeable is that the circumstance is caused by some sudden, dramatic, and unexpected action or condition outside the employer’s control.

I like BIG Bus

I don’t believe furlough will be a good option short term. You don’t know who is going to contract the virus, have to self isolate, or have to care for someone that is in need. We are going to need pilots for last minute call outs throughout this ordeal and also ready to go when it’s over. Hopefully there’s some sort of reduced guarantee, option of 50% no fly, no furlough hybrid type solution that comes up.

therapysession

What we need is for the airspace system to shut down outside of cargo carriers. Then all airlines are in this together, formulate some sort of debt forgiveness for the duration of the shutdown (employee pay included). This is going to continue to get worse as long as people aren't listening to the guidelines, and slow bleed this industry. Lock it all down for 1 month, and let's move on...Wont happen I know.

Everyday I read the WHO situation report and everyday the death toll is higher than the previous days deaths (not total, but daily). We surpassed 1000 in a day. John Hopkins reports are even worse (don't know how they are different). Many states are closing down. Don't want to sound doom and gloom but.......

MtnPeakCruiser

They will throw those trips to reserves then premium add folder, just as they do now. It will still be cheaper to furlough until demand resumes and the Airbus delayed deliveries resume.

Tom Bradys Cat

All of what you have said is based on being selctive with data. And that is the real problem. Your solution may be right or it may be wrong.

Importantly however it is based on half the picture at best and is puerly an opinion. Man I get it, this is your solution and I respect your position. All Im saying is that EVERYONE needs to becomw better informed.

therapysession

No offense, but I'm not following anything you just said. Elaborate please. Are you saying the World Health Organization uses selective data, or my citing that I read it as selective data? Other than that I don't know what selective data you speak of? It was an opinion. To say I was selective with data and that is the problem, when there is no data, doesn't make sense.

I agree on staying informed.

emersonbiguns

I's called Normalcy Bias.

Notarealpilot

Do you keep flight benefits in the case of a furlough?