Check post 12 for the first question

Brickhut covered part deux

Red-eye back to DEN... Employee bus

Red-eye back to ding-dongville…reading comprehension. He was asking about LAS and commuting from SAN, specifically.

I guess you could add PHL, CVG, DTW, CLE, CLT, etc..etc.., but, then, you wouldn’t be based in LAS now, would ya?

I waited until today specifically to respond to this. When the April class was added to Flica we had 1733 on the seniority list. We got down to 1710 until today when the newest class was added. We are now at 1753. So the semi official tally for pilots leaving was 23 in April.

Worse than the 15-18 I assumed but better than the 30 a month the Union quoted. This is a very small sample size though and subject to change of course. Pilot attrition is still a problem. I assume we agree on that.

I agree with this information. I have been keeping track since last year.


Seniority List (As of May 1, 2022)

Date - Pilots (-/+ Loss/Gain)

05/01/2021-1573

06/01/2021-1568 (-5)

07/01/2021-1593 (+25)

08/01/2021-1620 (+27)

09/01/2021-1639 (+19)

10/01/2021-1668 (+29)

11/01/2021-1684 (+16)

12/01/2021-1694 (+10)

01/01/2022-1708 (+14)

02/03/2022-1718 (+10)

03/01/2022-1721 (+3) (80 LOA’s / 10 Management)

04/01/2022-1748 (+27) (80 LOA’s / 10 Management)

05/05/2022-1765 (+17) (93 LOA’s / 10 Management)

In 1 year, we have netted approximately 192 pilots

(Net 150 pilots or an average of 16 pilots a month)

Good info, thanks for your time!!

Thanks for putting all that together

I still don’t know what to make of these numbers. I try to look at it from a pilot perspective as well as a company perspective. On one hand we are more or less keeping enough pilots for current growth. On the other hand we are going to need to increase that number as growth increases, and I’m not sure they can do it if things remain the same.
My other question is how much does this rate of churn cost the company in hiring, training, etc. Why not use that energy and money to work on our culture and put more money in the pockets of current and continuing Frontier pilots? I know the easy answer is Franke/BB…but making money and increasing the stock value is the most important thing, and they are failing miserably at that. Something has to give…

I agree and even though it’s still sub par I was happy to see the rate increase to $75 for the first year guys. It means they at least know and acknowledge there is a problem.

TPA senior or ?
 

How difficult is it to get TPA as a base?