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piper228 06-19-2022 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by whatdidATCsay (Post 3443775)
Apologies if its already been asked but how much block time can a new hire expect to get while on reserve in a base like PHL or the florida bases? currently at a UAX regional getting less than 30 hours a month on reserve.. Is the captain to FO ratio nearly as bad at F9?

I'm a short-call (by choice) CA on an east coast base. I'm used once or twice per 6-day block of reserve but usually it's not a full trip - it's a ferry/limo/DH/pick up the lost pieces type of trip, so the block is pretty low. Based on the reserve grid on FLICA though, it looks like long-call guys are used every single second of their legal availability. Generally trips are given to long-calls, then offered in the premium folder, then they'll give it up to a short-call. Living in base, short-call is a great gig.

whatdidATCsay 06-19-2022 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by piper228 (Post 3443910)
I'm a short-call (by choice) CA on an east coast base. I'm used once or twice per 6-day block of reserve but usually it's not a full trip - it's a ferry/limo/DH/pick up the lost pieces type of trip, so the block is pretty low. Based on the reserve grid on FLICA though, it looks like long-call guys are used every single second of their legal availability. Generally trips are given to long-calls, then offered in the premium folder, then they'll give it up to a short-call. Living in base, short-call is a great gig.

Appreciate the response! Just to clarify can the same be said for FO's that are long call? I live in Jersey City so LCR would definitely be preferred for me, especially if it means being used more. Are you able to choose or have any say over being LCR and SCR? My goal is to fly as often as possible and then move to LAS few years from now and take it easy then.

Xdashdriver 06-19-2022 01:38 PM

Yes, same for FOs. The contract requires scheduling to use long calls before short calls if the trip is in open time at 12+ hours prior to departure. You bid for long/short call type during monthly schedule bidding, but there limited long call slots available so it does tend to go more senior.

JoeFever1 06-19-2022 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by whatdidATCsay (Post 3443948)
Appreciate the response! Just to clarify can the same be said for FO's that are long call? I live in Jersey City so LCR would definitely be preferred for me, especially if it means being used more. Are you able to choose or have any say over being LCR and SCR? My goal is to fly as often as possible and then move to LAS few years from now and take it easy then.

Why would you want to work more on reserve? Get paid the same whether you fly 0 or 75 hours (while on rsv duty). Do short call and fill your schedule on days off. That pays on top of min guarantee. If you’re within 2 hours just stick with short call. Long call can go as senior as bottom end line holders anyways so you may not have a choice. Guys that can sit long call at home but not short call.

Salukipilot4590 06-19-2022 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by JoeFever1 (Post 3443953)
Why would you want to work more on reserve? Get paid the same whether you fly 0 or 75 hours (while on rsv duty). Do short call and fill your schedule on days off. That pays on top of min guarantee. If you’re within 2 hours just stick with short call. Long call can go as senior as bottom end line holders anyways so you may not have a choice. Guys that can sit long call at home but not short call.

Shhhhh!!!! Don’t give away my secret! :D

sled14 06-19-2022 01:53 PM

Depends on month as well. I did long call in April and got called for 3 turns and one 2 day. So used 5 days out of 21 available.

DumboDrop 06-19-2022 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by JoeFever1 (Post 3443953)
Why would you want to work more on reserve? Get paid the same whether you fly 0 or 75 hours (while on rsv duty). Do short call and fill your schedule on days off. That pays on top of min guarantee. If you’re within 2 hours just stick with short call. Long call can go as senior as bottom end line holders anyways so you may not have a choice. Guys that can sit long call at home but not short call.

Building time to leave?

whatdidATCsay 06-19-2022 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by DumboDrop (Post 3443957)
Building time to leave?

No, but being in a more competitive spot with TT during a potential recession would give me some comfort if I did have to look for another job.

whatdidATCsay 06-19-2022 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by JoeFever1 (Post 3443953)
Why would you want to work more on reserve? Get paid the same whether you fly 0 or 75 hours (while on rsv duty). Do short call and fill your schedule on days off. That pays on top of min guarantee. If you’re within 2 hours just stick with short call. Long call can go as senior as bottom end line holders anyways so you may not have a choice. Guys that can sit long call at home but not short call.

Hm didnt realize there was a bid selection for Short and Long. Where im at we only bid for reserve days off and scheduling assigns scr seemingly at random. So for someone that has (under good traffic circumstances) a 2 hour drive to PHL, how many times a month would it be likely that I drive to PHL and end up not being used for short call? Thats kind of the biggest concern for me.

piper228 06-19-2022 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by whatdidATCsay (Post 3443965)
Hm didnt realize there was a bid selection for Short and Long. Where im at we only bid for reserve days off and scheduling assigns scr seemingly at random. So for someone that has (under good traffic circumstances) a 2 hour drive to PHL, how many times a month would it be likely that I drive to PHL and end up not being used for short call? Thats kind of the biggest concern for me.

If you have a 2 hour drive to PHL, I wouldn't drive to PHL without being called. Just drive fast. Or hang out at a coffee shop 20 mins down I-95. To take a sampling, looking at today's reserve numbers of PHL FO's, both long-calls were used and 2 out of 3 short-calls were used (one redeye reserve short call guy isn't on call yet). 3 out of 4 of those trips were just day turns, with one being a 3-day pairing. If you want to fly, you can mark yourself as such with crew scheduling, but I recommend not doing that and working on your days off instead to make more money.....especially if you can sit reserve at home and have some semblance of a life.


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