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Originally Posted by JoeFever1
(Post 3414494)
I’m not sure it would be that much longer when it’s all said and done. A jcba wouldn't be done until 2024. Early opener is next year I believe. If we don’t merge the company should want to get something done asap. I don’t see how else they can slow attrition.
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Originally Posted by JoeFever1
(Post 3414499)
Biffle already said we make the same as Delta, so I think those 321 rates should be easily agreed upon! But for real…we’re carrying wide body loads.
Having said that, I think it would be great for the F9 pilots if JB/NK happens, growth without real competition. You would definitely still get a better contract, but without the stagnation. I wish JB would have bought F9. |
Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 3414671)
No, you are not (and neither am I at NK), half the wide body revenue is below the floor.
Having said that, I think it would be great for the F9 pilots if JB/NK happens, growth without real competition. You would definitely still get a better contract, but without the stagnation. I wish JB would have bought F9. Random thought that other day though…what if B6 moves toward the ULCC game? F9 used to be similar to B6’s model and changed. What’s to stop them from adopting NK’s model but keep B6’s brand? F9 would be in a rough position. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 3414671)
No, you are not (and neither am I at NK), half the wide body revenue is below the floor.
Having said that, I think it would be great for the F9 pilots if JB/NK happens, growth without real competition. You would definitely still get a better contract, but without the stagnation. I wish JB would have bought F9. |
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3414758)
You keep beating this ULCC growth drum. F9 and Spirit, and even B6 are slowing growth due to not getting enough pilots and enough pilots to stay. Sorry but that fast growth unicorn isn't going to happen.
Totally agree. Until management understands that their cost model can’t apply to pilots right now(or for the next decade) we’re going nowhere. We could match DAL, UAL, AA pay scales tomorrow and we will still lose pilots to them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by SeaRider
(Post 3414772)
Totally agree. Until management understands that their cost model can’t apply to pilots right now(or for the next decade) we’re going nowhere. We could match DAL, UAL, AA pay scales tomorrow and we will still lose pilots to them.
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3414773)
Gonna need to exceed the DL/UAL rates. Which they CAN afford.
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
(Post 3414816)
That may slow the exodus a bit but it won't stop it.
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Originally Posted by SeaRider
(Post 3414688)
What’s to stop them from adopting NK’s model but keep B6’s brand?
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3414758)
You keep beating this ULCC growth drum. F9 and Spirit, and even B6 are slowing growth due to not getting enough pilots and enough pilots to stay. Sorry but that fast growth unicorn isn't going to happen.
Perhaps being proactive so operation doesn’t implode? Pilot shortage is not the issue here. Perhaps pilot retention? |
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