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SFA320 05-01-2022 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3415276)
I think you and I agree on many things. I do not believe JB+NK will stagnate, unless the pilot shortage is so acute they have no choice. I believe they have every desire and intention to grow faster, if they can staff it. The demand for our product is definitely there. It's an open question as to whether management will do what it takes to staff the company, but we may just do it for them with an industry leading JCBA (if this even happens).

They are trying to net 15% growth in JB pilots this year, so definitely not stagnation. And JB+NK will also have considerable orders on hand.

Hopefully we all get an answer soon as to which way this train is gonna pull out of the station.

Man, I had no idea one percenters had so much time for useless comments on forums. At least go have some fun with all that money you make.

emersonbiguns 05-02-2022 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SFA320 (Post 3415304)
Man, I had no idea one percenters had so much time for useless comments on forums. At least go have some fun with all that money you make.

Ya think….?

Trowserchilli 05-02-2022 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3415276)

Hopefully we all get an answer soon as to which way this train is gonna pull out of the station.

Just announced, it's pulling out in the right direction.
Looks like you guys dropped the ball on your Hail Mary.

Good luck staying relevant in the industry now.
Better head back over to your board, you guys are going to have to figure out where to find pilots.

Liger 05-02-2022 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by Trowserchilli (Post 3415386)
Just announced, it's pulling out in the right direction.
Looks like you guys dropped the ball on your Hail Mary.

Good luck staying relevant in the industry now.
Better head back over to your board, you guys are going to have to figure out where to find pilots.


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I thought for sure bluedriver had it all figured out🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Fifi 05-02-2022 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by Trowserchilli (Post 3415386)
Just announced, it's pulling out in the right direction.
Looks like you guys dropped the ball on your Hail Mary.

Good luck staying relevant in the industry now.
Better head back over to your board, you guys are going to have to figure out where to find pilots.

I guess that could be good news….if we didn’t have the most anti pilot CPO in history…….evidenced by more CAs heading out…..

emersonbiguns 05-02-2022 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by Trowserchilli (Post 3415386)
Just announced...

Que up the sad trombone...

Womp....Womp...

Bluedriver 05-02-2022 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by Trowserchilli (Post 3415386)
Just announced, it's pulling out in the right direction.
Looks like you guys dropped the ball on your Hail Mary.

Good luck staying relevant in the industry now.
Better head back over to your board, you guys are going to have to figure out where to find pilots.

JB doesn't "need" NK. NK brings both solutions and new problems. There are solutions without NK, just would take money and time. Of course management wants the easier/faster solution. In it's absence, they will have to take the longer road. But will avoid the problems.

JB has large loyal customer bases and large slot and gate portfolios in places that are basically unobtainium to new entrants. The ULCCs can't even make daily and full year service work for much of there network, and have almost zero large metros (where the well funded FREQUENT travelers are) where they control anything approaching a large proportion of local traffic... They can't even afford gates in Denver anymore and are switching to hardstands (Frontier). They can afford gates, but not at a low enough CASM to keep from losing market share to UAL and SWA. One or the other, can't do both, can't afford gates and stay relevant in Denver.

JB will either improve it's offer and win (appears less likely) or move on to plan B (which was plan A just a few weeks ago).

putzin 05-02-2022 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 3415451)
I guess that could be good news….if we didn’t have the most anti pilot CPO in history…….evidenced by more CAs heading out…..

Let them go. When Frankie's ready to execute his plans, he'll open his wallet. Leverage!

Trowserchilli 05-02-2022 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3415458)
JB doesn't "need" NK. NK brings both solutions and new problems. There are solutions without NK, just would take money and time. Of course management wants the easier/faster solution. In it's absence, they will have to take the longer road. But will avoid the problems.

JB has large loyal customer bases and large slot and gate portfolios in places that are basically unobtainium to new entrants. The ULCCs can't even make daily and full year service work for much of there network, and have almost zero large metros (where the well funded FREQUENT travelers are) where they control anything approaching a large proportion of local traffic... They can't even afford gates in Denver anymore and are switching to hardstands (Frontier). They can afford gates, but not at a low enough CASM to keep from losing market share to UAL and SWA. One or the other, can't do both, can't afford gates and stay relevant in Denver.

JB will either improve it's offer and win (appears less likely) or move on to plan B (which was plan A just a few weeks ago).

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah

Head back over to your section now with the egos. No need for you to swim in these parts.

Bluedriver 05-02-2022 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by Trowserchilli (Post 3415461)
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah

Head back over to your section now with the egos. No need for you to swim in these parts.

Just for my enjoyment.


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