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04-30-2022 | 06:40 PM
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Frontier is currently fat on pilots and running classes of 48 with a multi month pool of guys waiting for class
I'm not saying that the pilot shortage won't eventually slow our growth plans, but it is not the cause right now.
I'm not saying that the pilot shortage won't eventually slow our growth plans, but it is not the cause right now.
04-30-2022 | 07:36 PM
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Yes, classes of 48 a month. That only ended up being a net gain of 40 pilots on the first 3 months of the year.
05-01-2022 | 03:16 AM
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We have not been running classes of 48 since the beginning of the year, and as has been mentioned numerous times, we only need a net gain of about 200 pilots per year to reach our growth targets.
What about this:
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2022/04/28/southwest-airlines-cuts-20000-summer-flights-boosts-hiring-to-brace-for-travelers/
Or this:
https://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2022/04/28/jetblue-cuts-summer-flights-new-york-airports.html
05-01-2022 | 07:18 AM
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We just started running big classes again.
We have not been running classes of 48 since the beginning of the year, and as has been mentioned numerous times, we only need a net gain of about 200 pilots per year to reach our growth targets.
What about this:
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2022/04/28/southwest-airlines-cuts-20000-summer-flights-boosts-hiring-to-brace-for-travelers/
Or this:
https://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2022/04/28/jetblue-cuts-summer-flights-new-york-airports.html
We have not been running classes of 48 since the beginning of the year, and as has been mentioned numerous times, we only need a net gain of about 200 pilots per year to reach our growth targets.
What about this:
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2022/04/28/southwest-airlines-cuts-20000-summer-flights-boosts-hiring-to-brace-for-travelers/
Or this:
https://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2022/04/28/jetblue-cuts-summer-flights-new-york-airports.html
05-01-2022 | 08:28 AM
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No, that's a CASM growth reduction. JB is planning to NET 700 new hires for 2022. Is 700/4500 more or less than 11%?
The company got out ahead of it's skis with how many flights they put out for sale, and are now having to reduce CASM growth, but not reducing hiring plans.
The company got out ahead of it's skis with how many flights they put out for sale, and are now having to reduce CASM growth, but not reducing hiring plans.
05-01-2022 | 08:37 AM
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No, that's a CASM growth reduction. JB is planning to NET 700 new hires for 2022. Is 700/4500 more or less than 11%?
The company got out ahead of it's skis with how many flights they put out for sale, and are now having to reduce CASM growth, but not reducing hiring plans.
The company got out ahead of it's skis with how many flights they put out for sale, and are now having to reduce CASM growth, but not reducing hiring plans.
Head back to your own board with the other blue ballers
05-01-2022 | 08:54 AM
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No, that's a CASM growth reduction. JB is planning to NET 700 new hires for 2022. Is 700/4500 more or less than 11%?
The company got out ahead of it's skis with how many flights they put out for sale, and are now having to reduce CASM growth, but not reducing hiring plans.
The company got out ahead of it's skis with how many flights they put out for sale, and are now having to reduce CASM growth, but not reducing hiring plans.
No trying to be rude here but what are you even doing in the Frontier thread? You’ve already displayed your disdain for ULCC as a niche market that will never surpass your own.
05-01-2022 | 08:55 AM
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05-01-2022 | 08:59 AM
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Our hiring % is matching our growth %. How many pilots are we supposed to hire in your opinion?
No trying to be rude here but what are you even doing in the Frontier thread? You’ve already displayed your disdain for ULCC as a niche market that will never surpass your own.
No trying to be rude here but what are you even doing in the Frontier thread? You’ve already displayed your disdain for ULCC as a niche market that will never surpass your own.
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