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PositiveRate20 11-26-2022 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by ULLI (Post 3537856)
Don't be dramatic, money was on the bank before ends day on the 20th

Stating facts is drama. Got it. The original comment was meant to be a bit tongue in cheek.

emersonbiguns 11-26-2022 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by TOGALOCK (Post 3537859)
…. due to a software glitch.

I don’t believe it’s “a software glitch”. I think it’s a function of the output of the payroll department doesn’t meet the requirements of the banking system.

brocklee9000 11-26-2022 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by PositiveRate20 (Post 3537834)
Eh. Don’t worry. None of the existing pilots received their last paycheck on time either.

I got a call from accounting literally the day before thanksgiving, asking to verify the account info I submitted a week earlier. They made a big deal about submitting it by the 16th to be eligible for “pre-employment,” so I was surprised it took them so long to get to the verification step. My regional wasted no time paying my last check and all my PTO.

BoilerWings 11-26-2022 02:40 PM

Isn’t the bonus payable on day 1?

brocklee9000 11-26-2022 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerWings (Post 3537921)
Isn’t the bonus payable on day 1?

No idea. When I called the day they emailed us, they didn’t know anything any kept saying it was rushed (for us in the 11/28 class) so that it “could be paid as a pre-employment bonus”.

shrsailplanes 11-26-2022 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by brocklee9000 (Post 3537929)
No idea. When I called the day they emailed us, they didn’t know anything any kept saying it was rushed (for us in the 11/28 class) so that it “could be paid as a pre-employment bonus”.

The pre-employment ship has sailed.

brocklee9000 11-26-2022 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 3537936)
The pre-employment ship has sailed.

I remember the literature saying somewhere “prior to your first day” or something along the lines of prior to employment.

So at this point, for the sake of philosophical debate, could one turn down the bonus now? Or leave prior to the 3 year mark and argue it wasn’t paid out in the pre employment time frame? I’m sure the latter is moot, good lawyers will have written that out of a contract.

TOGALOCK 11-26-2022 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by brocklee9000 (Post 3537944)
I remember the literature saying somewhere “prior to your first day” or something along the lines of prior to employment.

So at this point, for the sake of philosophical debate, could one turn down the bonus now? Or leave prior to the 3 year mark and argue it wasn’t paid out in the pre employment time frame? I’m sure the latter is moot, good lawyers will have written that out of a contract.

Getting the payout AFTER you start has very little effect on you. You will likely still be held accountable if you leave. The problem would be that they would then be paying “employed” first year pilots outside of the CBA. The “pre-employment bonus” has everything to do with circumventing the CBA and current seniority list pilots, not whether or not they could hold you to the contract. Failing to meet the pre-employment timeframe will only have blowback on the company. Not you.

brocklee9000 11-26-2022 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by TOGALOCK (Post 3537947)
Getting the payout AFTER you start has very little effect on you. You will likely still be held accountable if you leave. The problem would be that they would then be paying “employed” first year pilots outside of the CBA. The “pre-employment bonus” has everything to do with circumventing the CBA and current seniority list pilots, not whether or not they could hold you to the contract. Failing to meet the pre-employment timeframe will only have blowback on the company. Not you.

I’m not planning on leaving, also not touching it for at least 3 years just to be safe.

TOGALOCK 11-26-2022 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by brocklee9000 (Post 3537953)
I’m not planning on leaving, also not touching it for at least 3 years just to be safe.

That’s a smart choice. You never know what opportunities your future may hold.

Just to be clear, my post wasn’t meant in any way to be negative towards you. I was just explaining why the company would be in such a hurry to get the bonus done pre-employment.

Welcome to Frontier, and I hope it will be everything that you hope it will be. This place isn’t without its warts and scars, but it’s nowhere near as bad as some on here make it out to be. Come develop your own opinion. Don’t let your attitude be influenced by what others say.


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