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doz4dllrs 01-30-2023 11:55 PM

Either path will get you to United. Have a plan if United doesn’t work out. Where would you rather be stuck? Southwest where they have a good company that isn’t going anywhere or this dumpster fire that is getting worse by the quarter with no definite future.

If you’re still unsure, go compare each company’s crew rooms and see what that tells you about how their respective pilots are valued.

WHACKMASTER 01-31-2023 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by doz4dllrs (Post 3582760)
Either path will get you to United. Have a plan if United doesn’t work out. Where would you rather be stuck? Southwest where they have a good company that isn’t going anywhere or this dumpster fire that is getting worse by the quarter with no definite future.

If you’re still unsure, go compare each company’s crew rooms and see what that tells you about how their respective pilots are valued.

Bahahaha. You funny boy! Things have changed at SWA. It’s definitely NOT the luv airline anymore.

Salukipilot4590 01-31-2023 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3582820)
Bahahaha. You funny boy! Things have changed at SWA. It’s definitely NOT the luv airline anymore.

Compared to the absolute orgy of love and affection that is Frontier?

hercretired 01-31-2023 06:41 AM

stop thinking about the company. think about you. ALL the airlines are corporate emotional-less entities, beholden to Wall Street or their hedge fund investors. Herb died long ago. We are ???? 3 or 4 CEO's post-Herb. AirTran is basically in charge of, or now has a large role in, the training department (good, bad, or indifferent) at SW. My point is, SW is not SW of yesterday.

F9 is F9. You buy Burger King you aren't expecting organic meat, GMO free fries, and cloth napkins. If you are, you will be disappointed and run to Twitter and MF your "poor service" (to a bunch of eye rolls because, like Burger King, their ALWAYS will be customers for the ULCCs).

It is what it is.

Where do YOU live? What is best for YOUR personal life? Wife? Kids? Commute? You will make 300k+ as a couple-years Captain at ANY and ALL of the majors.

My two cents

flyguy81 01-31-2023 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by hercretired (Post 3576499)
I you live in, and will never in your life, move out of LAS, DEN, MCO, I would go Frontier.

both are single type airlines
both are LCC or ULCC business model
both you can make a crap load of money as a Captain
neither are perfect
both have brand new or near-new airplanes coming
1 is Airbus, 1 is 737
1 offers 4 year or less upgrade, 1 does not

If you live in or near, and will never move out of, OAK, FLL/MIA, LAX, MDW, DAL, HOU, SAT/AUS, (Texas or Oklahoma in general), I would do SWA

my opinion

F9 upgrade is like 18 years for DEN. It’s less than 8 at WN. Not a chance in hell I’d pick F9 over WN living in DEN.

WHACKMASTER 02-01-2023 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 3582828)
Compared to the absolute orgy of love and affection that is Frontier?

I didn’t say it was but just wanted to keep the record straight that SWA is definitely not the airline that some people still think it is.

spooldup 02-01-2023 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy81 (Post 3583446)
F9 upgrade is like 18 years for DEN. It’s less than 8 at WN. Not a chance in hell I’d pick F9 over WN living in DEN.

Unless we grow DEN 😂

Missed Appch 02-01-2023 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy81 (Post 3583446)
F9 upgrade is like 18 years for DEN. It’s less than 8 at WN. Not a chance in hell I’d pick F9 over WN living in DEN.

I agree with this 100%.

ULLI 02-01-2023 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy81 (Post 3583446)
F9 upgrade is like 18 years for DEN. It’s less than 8 at WN. Not a chance in hell I’d pick F9 over WN living in DEN.

Not to mention... 18 years doing red eyes or 5 hour turns

doz4dllrs 02-01-2023 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3582820)
Bahahaha. You funny boy! Things have changed at SWA. It’s definitely NOT the luv airline anymore.

I know you're ****ed about being acquired by SW andI understand SW isn't what it was in the past but that in no way makes it on the same level as F9.


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