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Mugatu 02-01-2023 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by madmax757 (Post 3584115)
I don’t see how they can speculate that until we see how the demand for our product is there first. Look at Miami and how that has turned out. I remember them saying something similar.

Miami (and FLL) growth was based on F9/NK merger. Strategy has now changed. But I agree it’s pointless to speculate until the company sees how our product works in DFW on a larger scale. And how JB works DFW post NK merger.

spooldup 02-01-2023 07:55 PM

Im sure DFW will be the biggest base. Just like DEN was never supposed to shrink, and we are the pilot's choice of airline.

dracir1 02-01-2023 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3584180)
Im sure DFW will be the biggest base. Just like DEN was never supposed to shrink, and we are the pilot's choice of airline.

Im not really sure why anyone puts any stock in what F9 mgt says. It will certainly change - depending on the economy, demand, gate space/costs, etc. F9 sways as the wind blows. MCO is hot, let focus there. Oh wait, Vegas is poppin now. Let see what that’s about. Now it’s Miami. Now Dallas.

Just go to the base you want as soon as you want. If they displace you out of there due to reduction, they have to pay to move you. Else, you’re where you wanna be.

BufordT Justice 02-02-2023 02:24 AM


Originally Posted by Big C (Post 3584105)
Heard today from a pretty reliable source in the company that DFW was eventually going to be the largest base at F9. Biggest reasons was because of the terminal growth and being centrally located in the country and can reach all F9 destinations with a 321 NEO or XLR.

That aligns with BB’s supposed recent move to the Dallas area.

Aero1900 02-02-2023 05:35 AM

AA is prepared to aquire Frontier. The back room deals are done.

Biffle will get a seat on the board and a possible C suit job depending on how the rest of the board votes, hence the move to TX.

The deal will take so long to get approved there will likely be a republican DOJ by then and they will be far more likely than the current administration to approve the deal.

The JCBA will be very challenging and AA will likely file for chapter 11 before we reach a TA, forcing us to work under our current pay rates for the better part of a decade.

AA wins by getting our order book of 321NEOs which is perfect plane for them. They also aquire over 2000 Airbus typed pilots and will be able to force them to work at below market pay for a long time.

Indigo wins by turning a 36 million dollar investment into 3.6 Billion.

turbojet28 02-02-2023 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3584311)
AA is prepared to aquire Frontier. The back room deals are done.

Biffle will get a seat on the board and a possible C suit job depending on how the rest of the board votes, hence the move to TX.

The deal will take so long to get approved there will likely be a republican DOJ by then and they will be far more likely than the current administration to approve the deal.

The JCBA will be very challenging and AA will likely file for chapter 11 before we reach a TA, forcing us to work under our current pay rates for the better part of a decade.

AA wins by getting our order book of 321NEOs which is perfect plane for them. They also aquire over 2000 Airbus typed pilots and will be able to force them to work at below market pay for a long time.

Indigo wins by turning a 36 million dollar investment into 3.6 Billion.

Haha, that’s so crazy that it could be real

Aero1900 02-02-2023 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by turbojet28 (Post 3584323)
Haha, that’s so crazy that it could be real

I'm afraid so.

Indigo tried to create a big airline with Spirit but that didn't pan out. So, screw it, just sell it. They've owned us for almost 10 years now, starting to face challenges with acquiring enough pilots to grow the way they want, so screw it, just sell it.

Franke is old and tired. Biffle isn't the genius Franke is, so screw it, just sell it.

When the deal is good enough, you take it.

DumboDrop 02-02-2023 06:10 AM

You forgot how we get TWA'd.

Aero1900 02-02-2023 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by DumboDrop (Post 3584337)
You forgot how we get TWA'd.

Maybe. But if I had to choose between ALPA and APA, I'd take ALPA

CRJdriver2017 02-02-2023 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3584311)
AA is prepared to aquire Frontier. The back room deals are done.

Biffle will get a seat on the board and a possible C suit job depending on how the rest of the board votes, hence the move to TX.

The deal will take so long to get approved there will likely be a republican DOJ by then and they will be far more likely than the current administration to approve the deal.

The JCBA will be very challenging and AA will likely file for chapter 11 before we reach a TA, forcing us to work under our current pay rates for the better part of a decade.

AA wins by getting our order book of 321NEOs which is perfect plane for them. They also aquire over 2000 Airbus typed pilots and will be able to force them to work at below market pay for a long time.

Indigo wins by turning a 36 million dollar investment into 3.6 Billion.

Omg…now I’m not gonna sleep tonight.,,


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