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TransWorld 02-02-2023 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3584311)
AA is prepared to aquire Frontier. The back room deals are done.

Biffle will get a seat on the board and a possible C suit job depending on how the rest of the board votes, hence the move to TX.

The deal will take so long to get approved there will likely be a republican DOJ by then and they will be far more likely than the current administration to approve the deal.

The JCBA will be very challenging and AA will likely file for chapter 11 before we reach a TA, forcing us to work under our current pay rates for the better part of a decade.

AA wins by getting our order book of 321NEOs which is perfect plane for them. They also aquire over 2000 Airbus typed pilots and will be able to force them to work at below market pay for a long time.

Indigo wins by turning a 36 million dollar investment into 3.6 Billion.

Everyone is entitled to their delusions.

turbojet28 02-02-2023 07:54 AM

I wouldn’t be shocked to see F9 for sale, but I highly doubt that the largest airline on earth (AA) would be allowed by regulators to buy it.

I could see the strategy for UAL to buy. AA and Delta have 19.5% and 16.3% domestic market share, respectively, along with WN’s 17%. UAL sits near 12-13%. I could see acquiring F9 and their 3.5% as a sound strategy to achieve parity with the others. A young fleet of NEOs would also fit right into their plans of a fleet refresh, not to mention an influx of pilots, and giving another leg up in their battle with WN over Denver.

I don’t think Delta has any need to purchase. WN, maybe??

Fun to speculate, but in reality I highly doubt any of these would happen. Maybe F9 and G4 find a way to play together? Who knows, but it does seem like there will be some big moves in the industry at some point soon.

spooldup 02-02-2023 08:02 AM

I couldnt imagine being bought by a worse company than AA... they are the last legacy I would wanna work for.

Aero1900 02-02-2023 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3584414)
I couldnt imagine being bought by a worse company than AA... they are the last legacy I would wanna work for.

Definitely

singlepilot 02-02-2023 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3584311)
AA is prepared to aquire Frontier. The back room deals are done.

Biffle will get a seat on the board and a possible C suit job depending on how the rest of the board votes, hence the move to TX.

The deal will take so long to get approved there will likely be a republican DOJ by then and they will be far more likely than the current administration to approve the deal.

The JCBA will be very challenging and AA will likely file for chapter 11 before we reach a TA, forcing us to work under our current pay rates for the better part of a decade.

AA wins by getting our order book of 321NEOs which is perfect plane for them. They also aquire over 2000 Airbus typed pilots and will be able to force them to work at below market pay for a long time.

Indigo wins by turning a 36 million dollar investment into 3.6 Billion.

How are you substantiating this Aero?
As far as Biffle buying a ranch in Texas.
He’s from there so it’s not really a shocker…

BufordT Justice 02-02-2023 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by singlepilot (Post 3584459)
How are you substantiating this Aero?
As far as Biffle buying a ranch in Texas.
He’s from there so it’s not really a shocker…

Buying the ranch in Texas isn’t really the shocker so much as him selling his home near Denver to do it. That’s the head scratcher.

Aero1900 02-02-2023 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by singlepilot (Post 3584459)
How are you substantiating this Aero?
As far as Biffle buying a ranch in Texas.
He’s from there so it’s not really a shocker…

I'm pulling it out of my a$s.

But B.L. is telling new hires that we are going to merge or be acquired, Biffle is moving to Texas, and Indigo is probably done with us. Plus, we have exactly what AA wants. We've been a thorn in their side for a while now and we have the planes and pilots they want

turbojet28 02-02-2023 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3584510)
I'm pulling it out of my a$s.

But B.L. is telling new hires that we are going to merge or be acquired, Biffle is moving to Texas, and Indigo is probably done with us. Plus, we have exactly what AA wants. We've been a thorn in their side for a while now and we have the planes and pilots they want

Wait, what? He is really saying that?

Gary et al 02-02-2023 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3584510)
I'm pulling it out of my a$s.

But B.L. is telling new hires that we are going to merge or be acquired, Biffle is moving to Texas, and Indigo is probably done with us. Plus, we have exactly what AA wants. We've been a thorn in their side for a while now and we have the planes and pilots they want

Additionally AA is retiring roughly 1000 pilots a year for the next 3 years...all we would be is a buffer to keep their regionals alive. The government doesn't want to have all the small communities lose all their air service.

itsnotme 02-02-2023 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3584510)
I'm pulling it out of my a$s.

But B.L. is telling new hires that we are going to merge or be acquired, Biffle is moving to Texas, and Indigo is probably done with us. Plus, we have exactly what AA wants. We've been a thorn in their side for a while now and we have the planes and pilots they want

Really?? How in the world would the SVP of Flt ops not find himself getting questioned by the SEC for even hinting such a thing. If you’re being sarcastic then, okay, fine😂


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