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Old 01-16-2024, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluesteal View Post
its almost a 100% chance F9/NK merge now. Nk is about to go back to the negotiating table as required by the current extension and probably get more $$ which will be the starting point for a future JCBA for F9/NK
F9/NK merger? Can I suggest new call sign "Trailer Park"?
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Old 01-16-2024, 10:48 AM
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Any ideas if/how this will affect upcoming hiring/training if F9 decides to go back in...have a CJO (street hire FO) and am waiting for a class date still and not sure how this will play a role
if and thats a big IF F9-NK try again, it will not change in any way hiring in the near future. We have planes coming and need people to fly them.
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Old 01-16-2024, 10:51 AM
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if and thats a big IF F9-NK try again, it will not change in any way hiring in the near future. We have planes coming and need people to fly them.
Thanks, that's what I had figured. Gonna be an interesting year. If they end up trying it again and it goes through, how would bases change/look like? I'm still pretty new to this and have only been at a 121 gig for under a year. Planning on moving closer and aiming for PHL but if something could happen to that I don't want to uproot everything
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Old 01-16-2024, 10:58 AM
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So can we use the breakup fee Spirit was supposed to give us towards our new Spirit bid?

I wonder how low we are going to go with this next offer…..
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Old 01-16-2024, 11:08 AM
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That judge would never approve NK/F9 merger. Read it, he has a very strict interpretation of the Clayton Act. For him, it is sufficient that the merger may reduce competition on any route. And he only required preponderance of evidence to determine it. And unless appealed, the next judge will rely heavily on this case.
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Old 01-16-2024, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by flamingtomatoes View Post
Thanks, that's what I had figured. Gonna be an interesting year. If they end up trying it again and it goes through, how would bases change/look like? I'm still pretty new to this and have only been at a 121 gig for under a year. Planning on moving closer and aiming for PHL but if something could happen to that I don't want to uproot everything
Nobody has a clue to be honest but this would only further accelerate our base expansion plan because they have FLL, DTW, HOU, ACY…off the top of my head. Then the cities like LAS with big combined bases would need to move assets elsewhere fueling even more bases.
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Old 01-16-2024, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
That judge would never approve NK/F9 merger. Read it, he has a very strict interpretation of the Clayton Act. For him, it is sufficient that the merger may reduce competition on any route. And he only required preponderance of evidence to determine it. And unless appealed, the next judge will rely heavily on this case.
Dude….. all the “preponderance” on APC from legal/financial experts about the NK/JB merger. Look at how much $$$ everyone is crying about losing betting on that merger.

So tell us more about this ruling, the Clayton Act, and how you think you know the future.

More APC experts talking about what they think the know. Shut up and fly the damn airplane. Don’t talk about legal precedent.
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Old 01-16-2024, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HSCompressor View Post
Dude….. all the “preponderance” on APC from legal/financial experts about the NK/JB merger. Look at how much $$$ everyone is crying about losing betting on that merger.

So tell us more about this ruling, the Clayton Act, and how you think you know the future.

More APC experts talking about what they think the know. Shut up and fly the damn airplane. Don’t talk about legal precedent.
Would be a very quiet forum if everyone here would just shut up and fly the damn airplane.
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Old 01-16-2024, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
Would be a very quiet forum if everyone here would just shut up and fly the damn airplane.
No. but it would be a better forum if people didn’t give their opinions when they have absolutely ZERO idea.

you know. Like all the nonsense people spewed during COVID. Another example of having zero idea.

”Experts”^^^
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Old 01-16-2024, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
Would be a very quiet forum if everyone here would just shut up and fly the damn airplane.

That would be nice for a change…. No one has a crystal ball. Show up do the job go home. If you don’t like where you’re at (not you specifically) then change it in my humble opinion. Sitting here guessing what is going to play out is only going to make one’s head explode. Control what we can control the rest who the ******* cares. We’ve already seen clearly BB and BL don’t give a flying F what we want with the new bases and the massive disruption it’s going to cause. One could argue that merging with spirit isn’t a good idea at this point either. But again we don’t have a crystal ball we can’t control what management does. My advice to anyone is save yourself the heartache of trying to figure out what’s happening next you will drive yourself mad. If you don’t like the way things are trending this might be the best time in industry history to exit. If you choose to stay then that’s your choice and have accepted whatever may come out of your control.
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