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Another Screw Up in Training?
What's the deal with several of FO's and Capt's having to requal owing to an alleged "paperwork" issue in the training dept?
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Originally Posted by monkeyboy511
(Post 3763284)
What's the deal with several of FO's and Capt's having to requal owing to an alleged "paperwork" issue in the training dept?
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
(Post 3763289)
FAA audit showed that some pilots were taught by unqualified instructors during parts of their training.
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Yes, I do believe the most recent event of mishandled accounting of one or more sim checkairman resulting in the disqualification of one or more pilot(s) makes this latest snafu the third (3rd) occurrence under J.O's watch. In order to correct this apparent serial probelm, those pilots effected by the mishandling of training will be required to re-train and re-qualify. I am interested in learning what cost F9 will incur to remove the pilot(s) from their schedule, get them in the sim, pay them for another sim event in addition to dropped flying, as well as sim and instructor cost(s). Who is accoutable? and what will be the consequences to those directly responsible? From an outsider looking in, would not BL ultimately be accountable? Can anyone come up with a cogent reason BL continues to cover and protect his lackey, JO? I mean really? three times? No changes? No wonder F9 is incapable of elevating themselves from the worst airline four years running.
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
(Post 3763289)
FAA audit showed that some pilots were taught by unqualified instructors during parts of their training.
BTW, do you even work here? How’d you get this FAA Audit? |
Originally Posted by HSCompressor
(Post 3763534)
Just curious. There any proof of this? Or, is this about as accurate as selling 150 airbus orders?
BTW, do you even work here? How’d you get this FAA Audit? Those affected, including myself, are being called by JO directly to explain the situation. I was told repeating the SIM events preceding a checkride doesn't mean you'll have to repeat the checkride. |
Originally Posted by 60SDriver
(Post 3763541)
Can confirm.
Those affected, including myself, are being called by JO directly to explain the situation. I was told repeating the SIM events preceding a checkride doesn't mean you'll have to repeat the checkride. |
Originally Posted by monkeyboy511
(Post 3763494)
From an outsider looking in, would not BL ultimately be accountable? Can anyone come up with a cogent reason BL continues to cover and protect his lackey, JO? I mean really? three times? No changes? No wonder F9 is incapable of elevating themselves from the worst airline four years running.
Obviously your work here currently or used to. And if you don't work here, why are you here? Anyhow, I don't disagree with anything your said. The last 2 times this happened, it was very costly and no one lost their jobs over it. Inexcusable to have happened again. Last time the FAA wouldn't even let pilots fly one leg back to base. They were dead in the water which I felt like was unnecessarily harsh on their part. It wasn't like the pilots hadn't taken and passed their checkrides. I know that one of the times the instructor (retired, non line pilot) hadn't attended ground school so they dequaled all the guys who'd done checkrides with him. That's pretty ridiculous. I mean, has the FAA sat thru one of our ground schools? Lol. They are not exactly the cornerstone of our safety culture. |
Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3763585)
You're an outsider? But you know the names of the people in the training dept?
Obviously your work here currently or used to. And if you don't work here, why are you here? Anyhow, I don't disagree with anything your said. The last 2 times this happened, it was very costly and no one lost their jobs over it. Inexcusable to have happened again. Last time the FAA wouldn't even let pilots fly one leg back to base. They were dead in the water which I felt like was unnecessarily harsh on their part. It wasn't like the pilots hadn't taken and passed their checkrides. I know that one of the times the instructor (retired, non line pilot) hadn't attended ground school so they dequaled all the guys who'd done checkrides with him. That's pretty ridiculous. I mean, has the FAA sat thru one of our ground schools? Lol. They are not exactly the cornerstone of our safety culture. |
Originally Posted by Russs
(Post 3763589)
ground school is sh!t hot.
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