Picking up OpenTime less than 5 hours
04-22-2024 | 05:15 AM
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Picking up OpenTime less than 5 hours
Maybe I’m clueless, but I have seen a rash of folks picking up open time that is less than the minimum guarantee.
Can anyone explain this logic to me?
I know new pilots are trying to get hours to move on, but it seems like this behavior is counter productive to the pilot group unless I’m missing something.
Can anyone explain this logic to me?
I know new pilots are trying to get hours to move on, but it seems like this behavior is counter productive to the pilot group unless I’m missing something.
04-22-2024 | 05:52 AM
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Maybe I’m clueless, but I have seen a rash of folks picking up open time that is less than the minimum guarantee.
Can anyone explain this logic to me?
I know new pilots are trying to get hours to move on, but it seems like this behavior is counter productive to the pilot group unless I’m missing something.
Can anyone explain this logic to me?
I know new pilots are trying to get hours to move on, but it seems like this behavior is counter productive to the pilot group unless I’m missing something.
04-22-2024 | 05:55 AM
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Maybe I’m clueless, but I have seen a rash of folks picking up open time that is less than the minimum guarantee.
Can anyone explain this logic to me?
I know new pilots are trying to get hours to move on, but it seems like this behavior is counter productive to the pilot group unless I’m missing something.
Can anyone explain this logic to me?
I know new pilots are trying to get hours to move on, but it seems like this behavior is counter productive to the pilot group unless I’m missing something.
04-22-2024 | 05:59 AM
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It’s been pilot modified so the rig goes away. The company cannot build anything without rig. That’s the downside to the ability to split sequences. There’s more upside imo so I’d prefer to keep that provision. When pilots aren’t trying to build hours again they’ll just have to use a res on those. Or place in the premium folder.
Last edited by fcoolaiddrinker; 04-22-2024 at 06:14 AM.
04-22-2024 | 06:13 AM
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Maybe I’m clueless, but I have seen a rash of folks picking up open time that is less than the minimum guarantee.
Can anyone explain this logic to me?
I know new pilots are trying to get hours to move on, but it seems like this behavior is counter productive to the pilot group unless I’m missing something.
Can anyone explain this logic to me?
I know new pilots are trying to get hours to move on, but it seems like this behavior is counter productive to the pilot group unless I’m missing something.
04-22-2024 | 06:21 AM
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Maybe I’m clueless, but I have seen a rash of folks picking up open time that is less than the minimum guarantee.
Can anyone explain this logic to me?
I know new pilots are trying to get hours to move on, but it seems like this behavior is counter productive to the pilot group unless I’m missing something.
Can anyone explain this logic to me?
I know new pilots are trying to get hours to move on, but it seems like this behavior is counter productive to the pilot group unless I’m missing something.
04-22-2024 | 06:32 AM
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There was an FO in ATL who is picking up 4hr split turns in PHL to get their hours to move on....
Its kind of horrific for us FOs who want QOL and a contract. Sadly new people dont care about anything else. Its all pick up anything and everything. No redeyes in the opentime, all trade boards are pickups on reserves offdays.
But I get it. You get here at 22. You have a airbus type and 1500hrs. You want to build time, update your apps, and go go a legacy.
Its kind of horrific for us FOs who want QOL and a contract. Sadly new people dont care about anything else. Its all pick up anything and everything. No redeyes in the opentime, all trade boards are pickups on reserves offdays.
But I get it. You get here at 22. You have a airbus type and 1500hrs. You want to build time, update your apps, and go go a legacy.
04-22-2024 | 07:48 AM
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Maybe I’m clueless, but I have seen a rash of folks picking up open time that is less than the minimum guarantee.
Can anyone explain this logic to me?
I know new pilots are trying to get hours to move on, but it seems like this behavior is counter productive to the pilot group unless I’m missing something.
Can anyone explain this logic to me?
I know new pilots are trying to get hours to move on, but it seems like this behavior is counter productive to the pilot group unless I’m missing something.
You go from Premium Open Time->Straight Pay Open Time-> Split Trip Open Time
Pilot's who pickup split trips are giving the company a triple win (No reserve coverage is lost, no min guarantee needs to be paid, no premium needs to be offered).
We'll never get a contract. Pilot's are their own worst enemies. I wonder what the legacy pilots would say? I'm sure they might admire the ability to split a trip, but they'd probably be miffed to hear pilots pickup the worthless scraps. Stupid.
04-22-2024 | 08:43 AM
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Even if it is legal they won't allow it. Likely because the computer won't let them. We all know who the real boss is.
04-22-2024 | 08:47 AM
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I have done it probably 20 times in the last few years. Ask nicer? They call it “Marrying two trips.”
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