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hercretired 08-06-2025 04:05 PM
Originally Posted by HSCompressor (Post 3935951)
Would the XLR made PHL to dublin? I know there's been some debate about the range they were advertising.

D Schurz one said in recurrent "No LCC has crossed the atlantic, and survived. Do we wanna be the first to try? With NBs?"

I always felt like he was one of the adults in the room. But, I could be wrong. Here we are.
well, Dan left.

He is at JetBlue

BusDriver2000 08-06-2025 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by hercretired (Post 3935960)
well, Dan left.

He is at JetBlue
the airline that may be worse off financially than us?

CGLimits 08-06-2025 04:18 PM
Originally Posted by HSCompressor (Post 3935951)
Would the XLR made PHL to dublin? I know there's been some debate about the range they were advertising.

D Schurz one said in recurrent "No LCC has crossed the atlantic, and survived. Do we wanna be the first to try? With NBs?"

I always felt like he was one of the adults in the room. But, I could be wrong. Here we are.
TAP: BOS-LIS
Iberia: BOS-MAD…BOS-BCN…SJU-MAD
JetBlue: BOS-MAD…BOS-AMS

Lots of airlines are doing it….but not with 340 passengers…

Workhard 08-06-2025 07:58 PM
Originally Posted by BusDriver2000 (Post 3935962)
the airline that may be worse off financially than us?
not sure I’d go that far. They are in more debt… but they have some assets that have not been leveraged against and they own what, half the planes if not more? The frontier assets 🤔. They turned an operational profit with paying the pilots. Frontier lost money operationally and pay like 40% less salary.

Tesla S 08-06-2025 09:40 PM
Circling the drain…

shrsailplanes 08-07-2025 05:27 AM
Originally Posted by Tesla S (Post 3936033)
Circling the drain…
Circling the drain rapidly. Indigo milked Frontier as much as it could and I’m sure they have an exit strategy.

JoeFever1 08-07-2025 06:21 AM
Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 3936096)
Circling the drain rapidly. Indigo milked Frontier as much as it could and I’m sure they have an exit strategy.
Alaska/Hawaiian is hiring as well as United and I believe Delta. Heck if this place is imminently doomed like you say I'd look at Atlas, Netjets, etc as well. Good luck to you!

LifetimeCFI 08-07-2025 06:28 AM
Originally Posted by JoeFever1 (Post 3936123)
Alaska/Hawaiian is hiring as well as United and I believe Delta. Heck if this place is imminently doomed like you say I'd look at Atlas, Netjets, etc as well. Good luck to you!
The faucet is about to be cranked up in 2026 that is for sure. Our attrition rates are going to rise considerably.

hercretired 08-07-2025 06:53 AM
Originally Posted by BusDriver2000 (Post 3935962)
the airline that may be worse off financially than us?
If they are, and he still left, what does that tell you about Frontier ?

JoeFever1 08-07-2025 07:18 AM
Originally Posted by hercretired (Post 3936146)
If they are, and he still left, what does that tell you about Frontier ?
Eh. 99% sure he was asked nicely to leave. Probably because he bruised BB's ego. He knew the 80-90% turn model wouldn't work. He said it in a rgs like a year before he left. Look where we are now?? I'd fire BB and hire DS tomorrow. This turn thing isn't being talked about enough imo. BB blew everything up to try this even when DS and Crew Planning explicitly said it wasn't possible. Now we have too many small bases spread too thin and nothing is working properly and no one is happy. Great plan Barry.


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