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captnate702 08-21-2025 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by VisionWings (Post 3941067)
this guy doesn’t understand inflation. Or the fact that corporations have stolen the wages from the average worker. Adjusted for inflation 1990 family would make 170,000 a year. Allowing corporations steal money from us while they give themselves a pay raise every year is why this happens. We deserve a lot more than we are even getting adjusted for inflation we are way behind from the 1990s.


but sure. Go compare yourself to mostly none union jobs that haven’t kept up with inflation because they refuse to pay union dues and become politically active to back their rights to compensation and quality of life.

We deserve to make what the going rate for an airbus pilot is. Just like they pay the c suite the going rate for their work.


just like a McDonald’s worker deserves a living wage. Just like a grocer deserves a living wage. We have our life because we fight for those benefits. Your attitude is one of concessions in a time when we have the highest level of inflation since the Great Depression. All the while we have a president enforcing taxes on all of our imported necessities. We need more to just maintain the purchasing power of our 2019 contract.

those same corporations that have stolen from the average worker have also caused my stock portfolio to grow at close to 20% year over a year for the past 15 years. It is absolutely insane for a pilot who receives a direct contribution into a 401(k) back by the stock market to complain about corporations not oaying workers what the “deserve”.

Or are you putting your direct contribution into a savings account and earning 4% yoy? Oh you choose to invest in the S&P? Then all this complaining about these evil corporations is pure hypocrisy and posturing.

I understand inflation and the time value of money. But I also make ~260k a year working 11-12 days a month and spending time with family, friends, and the great outdoors. I’ll also have more in retirement then I could possibly spend. That’s a good enough life for me.

you can call me dumb, crazy, weak, a stooge, etc. but if you will be forever miserable until you earn legacy rates then you should go to a legacy so you can have a good life. You should have gone in 2022-2023 and you’d have already made up your seniority. But those that stayed at F9 or G4 who continue to posture about legacy rates or bust is not helpful. It has created massive division at G4 and I’m sure that same human behavior has created division at F9.

fivebyfive 08-21-2025 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3941069)
of course not. But a surgeon in Oklahoma gets paid differently than a surgeon in NYC even tho perform the exact same procedures.

And flying planes a third of the month is WAY better than being a surgeon who works 24/7.

there is no soft time, pay protection, or paid time off for surgeons 😉

Dude. Its called abused spouse syndrome and you have it.

captnate702 08-21-2025 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by fivebyfive (Post 3941081)
Dude. It’ called abused spouse syndrome and you have it.

I’m not married to G4. I work here a third of the month. The rest of the time I’m with family, side hustle, hobbies, friends, etc.

If your life is this bad then you should have left F9 a few years ago. F9 is the same in 2025 that it was in 2022 and 2023. Nothing has changed.

It’s like you voted for Trump and then claim to be shocked about tariffs. He did exactly what he said he was gonna do. BB, Frankie, indigo, etc are doing exactly what they’ve always said they were gonna do: maintain an extreme cost advantage. Translation: always pay less for labor.

fcoolaiddrinker 08-21-2025 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3941084)
I’m not married to G4. I work here a third of the month. The rest of the time I’m with family, side hustle, hobbies, friends, etc.

If your life is this bad then you should have left F9 a few years ago. F9 is the same in 2025 that it was in 2022 and 2023. Nothing has changed.

It’s like you voted for Trump and then claim to be shocked about tariffs. He did exactly what he said he was gonna do. BB, Frankie, indigo, etc are doing exactly what they’ve always said they were gonna do: maintain an extreme cost advantage. Translation: always pay less for labor.

I thought you were going to stop lurking after your first post??? You claim f9 pilots that are legacy or bust on rates are creating division but you yourself are fanning those flames. Everyone is entitled to express expectations in an agreement. Thanks for your insight but anyone trying to lower expectations for any pilot has questionable intentions.

VisionWings 08-21-2025 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3941084)
I’m not married to G4. I work here a third of the month. The rest of the time I’m with family, side hustle, hobbies, friends, etc.

If your life is this bad then you should have left F9 a few years ago. F9 is the same in 2025 that it was in 2022 and 2023. Nothing has changed.

It’s like you voted for Trump and then claim to be shocked about tariffs. He did exactly what he said he was gonna do. BB, Frankie, indigo, etc are doing exactly what they’ve always said they were gonna do: maintain an extreme cost advantage. Translation: always pay less for labor.


You’re right. I’m wrong. Okay. Thanks. You can go back to your hobbit hole now. I’ve been enlightened. I can’t handle much more enlightening. I’m not worthy.

ReserveCA 08-21-2025 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by hercretired (Post 3940788)
no way Barry pays half Billion for " full retro"

get to a status meeting already!

JoeFever1 08-22-2025 01:04 AM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 3941101)
get to a status meeting already!

seriously

filler

shrsailplanes 08-22-2025 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 3941101)
get to a status meeting already!

Frontier is getting ready to sell. It’s happening.

av8nallday 08-22-2025 02:55 AM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 3941150)
Frontier is getting ready to sell. It’s happening.


Zero evidence of that. You want to post something wild at least back it up. Otherwise, stop trolling.

Freds Ex 08-22-2025 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 3941150)
Frontier is getting ready to sell. It’s happening.

This could MAYBE make sense if anyone was looking to buy. Nobody seems to be looking to buy right now.


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