Yeah nice try.

 

Well, that makes exactly 1 of you. Go for it.

 

If the NC had "no plan," then that blame should be placed squarely where it belongs: on the reps. Specifically, it was LECs 165 and 169 whose great idea it was to cancel strategic planning in favor of a picket. The reps own the strategic plan and set direction; the NC executes on that plan and direction. In this case, the NC had neither a plan nor direction because LECs 165 and 169 have been playing games and dividing this pilot group for the last year and a half. Your frustrations regarding the NC should be directed right where they belong—to the reps of 165 and 169!

Also, the mediator never recommended anyone's removal. That is false. The people in the room have confirmed it is false. Stop parroting this tired old MP talking point. That, coupled with his comms—wow, that guy truly has a strange relationship with the truth.

You want a plan and to fix this mess? Look no further than your printer and find the nearest pen to mail in a petition to recall LECs 165 and 169.

Need a form and don't know where to go? Ask the 163 or 167 reps—I'm sure they can point you in the right direction.

 

Did I read somewhere on FB anyone could sign the petition, it didn't matter whether you were a 165/169 member?

 

To sign the petition for a special LEC meeting, you must be a member of 165 or 169.

 

You probably did read that on fb but you have to be 165/169. There’s only really one way to find out for sure what the majority of all (no shame in person last min den only election) of those pilots want. After that we can move forward.

 

Retro?

Retro pay is meant to make us whole for the period of company delay. Generally, you don't get retro pay for periods where the union is at fault for the delay.

I love when LEC 169 (MP) states, "This wasted over $70,000 of our membership dues," in his most recent communication when discussing the cost of an MEC meeting where he was (rightfully) denied a quorum by LECs 163 and 167.

Hey MP, how about the $70,000+ you took out of the pockets of every 12+ year CA at this airline in retro pay they will now (likely) not be receiving? Did you give that much thought before you pulled your stunt last week?

 

If only there was poll or something official that had been pushed forward to back your position instead of talking to a few people and assuming they speak for us all.

 

correct…let that sink in folks. The 12-24 months this clown show just set us back will not be considered in whatever “retro” we negotiate. The company will say it’s not their fault we couldn’t negotiate in those months and they would be right.

 

That polling is garbage and old, taken before a lot of things have happened. As I pointed out previously, that polling shows that almost 80 percent don’t think the NC was doing a “very good job”. Have fun in your little APC echo chamber getting all fired up. You guys are now going to try and delay things even more trying to get whatever retribution you feel is deserved by doing the same thing you are that you feel somebody else did for what they felt as elected representatives of their pilot group. And doing so after many months of airport sits and discussions that they felt was for the betterment of our union. Chew on that for a while. Like it or not what’s happened has happened. Why don’t you pick up the phone or send an email and get the side of the story you supposedly know all about. And if you’re such an expert on everything that is going on, why don’t the lot of you volunteer for a position. You seem like you could make a great contribution. There are plenty of openings apparently. Seems to me that people resigning all over the place really weren’t in it for the pilot group they were in it for themselves and their buddies. There has been a concerted effort to oust MP since he took office as well as a concerted effort to put a “MM yes” vote in our FO rep spot. All spearheaded mostly by pilots that aren’t in 169 and one that holds a huge personal grudge. Why don’t you wait and see what happens before picking up a pitch fork and joining the angry mob. I know one of the pilots that is going to run for the MEC chair position and his credentials are stellar. You can’t possibly think that MM was a great chair. He basically admitted it himself. Let’s move on. This union will be much stronger going forward.