Never applied. I set my sights higher once I had 1000 PIC. Go ahead and insult me if it makes you feel better. You are the lowest paid Airbus operator in the country. That is not an insult. It's a fact.

 

I'm pleased to see pilots HELPING pilots with minimal sniping. I'm guilty of my share of mud slinging during the hard times we've been through, and I had stopped reading this forum some time ago. Arguing with strangers (instead of in-laws) wasn't helping anyone, so I stopped.

Training historically HAS slowed during the summer because the IPs are flying the increased block hours and keeping up with needed recurrent training. I don't know what this summer will bring.

We've got a new Director of Training starting Monday. He's a long time F9 pilot, and a good guy. I expect progress from the training department with him at the helm. The fellow who is retiring from that position has a well earned reputation of starting rumors, so; while I believe there will be growth, the numbers I've seen (102 to be hired in a given year???) should be taken for what their worth - a guess. (Would you tell the biggest leaker anything of import)? Also, keep in mind that a hiring forecast is a lot like a 10 day weather forecast. Find the best looking weather reader but understand that they don't really have a clue past 12 hours (and in Denver cut that to about :30 minutes).

I feel better about the future of F9 now than I have in over a decade. We've done as best we could, lost some battles, but have gotten lucky when it counted, and are getting stronger by the day. If F9 folded I planned to leave aviation since I don't fit in with most of the other airlines' cultures. I was hired when the Chief Pilot described Frontier as "the land of misfit toys." Our diversity has turned out to be one of our chief strengths, and it makes for some very interesting cockpit conversation!

About a year after I was hired at F9 (4500TT, two types, FE, degrees, etc. - all civilian) the US was attacked and the airline industry didn't know how to react. We were just beginning to take delivery of owned Airbi, and the knee jerk reaction from Potter and Tate (CEO & CFO) was to furlough.

My fellow FAPA pilots stepped up and offered a temporary 11 or 12% pay cut to avoid the furloughs. The vote passed in the 80-90% range - I, and a large lump of new hires, was/were on probation and couldn't vote but would have been the ones on the street. It turned out that we didn't need to furlough and the company made a show of repaying the pilots with stock options (that never managed to be in the money ), but the camaraderie of senior pilots giving up some of their money for guys they hardly knew bonded the pilot group and turned a stepping stone carrier into a career for me.

I don't have any info about current or future hiring for you. I just want to thank you all for returning APC to what it's supposed to be - pilots helping pilots get ahead in this effed up industry.

Cheers, mahalo & good luck!

Oh, I don't know if this indicates the status of the hiring window, but the flyfrontier.com site lists pilot as a position we are currently hiring for:
https://rn21.ultipro.com/FRO1003/Job...4FA606B0440A11

 

From a lowest paid RJ driver? Did you factor in the roughly 5% of the post-IPO F9? Run along, Massa Bedford needs some more cotton picked from the IBT labor pool....

 

Hockey is at Delta.

TEN

 

No internal recs. Just got picked...maybe luck of the draw, but my record is clean and I have 2200+ heavy jet time.

 

Then why are you even posting on here? Everyone can see the pay tables and make a decision for themselves, probably better advice would come from someone who has worked at frontier and a legacy. Rather than from someone who get on the internet to point out that they make more money than others.

 

F9 Driver, thank you for posting your perspective. I have a good friend that was here at that time and always expressed the same sentiments. I've been here just 3 months, but our Captains consistently reflect the same attitude and culture. The pilot group is a reason why a guy like me (military, regional, fractional, corporate) can look at an interviewer and honestly say that he's not leaving if UAL calls.

Hope the business model works, but until proven otherwise, F9 is a great place to be.

--Jeckyl

P.S. The hiring window is open, and I need another 5% below me on the seniority list!

 

I submited an application/resume' a few weeks ago but have not received a TBNT email or a call. Not sure how competitive I am although I certainly meet mins. How long digit take of you to hear either way?

 

It took about 4 days for me. Brittany (from HR, who is on the interview panel - by-the-way) called me and asked me the standard questions. No idea if they send out TBNT e-mails or not.

 

Some people have received TBNT emails after applying. I haven't heard anything myself, submitted my app about two weeks ago.