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Old 03-08-2007 | 07:13 PM
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Is there anything that the pilots over at Trans States can do about GoJets? I see they are in contract negotiations right now.

I know what I am doing about GoJets. I am educating anyone about why it would be a mistake to fly there. I don't allow GoJet pilots on my jumpseat. But what else can we do, or what else can Trans States pilots do?
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Old 03-08-2007 | 07:26 PM
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The only thing that can be done in a situation like this is educate the masses. I'm a bit dissapointed in ALPA for not taking the initiative to send a rep to every college, fbo, and/or flight school of any type, and explain to prospective pilots the effects of working at a scab operation like gojets. The negative impact to the industry as a whole.

In other words, if they can't hire enough people, eventually they might be forced to intergrate the pilot groups, without compromising the TSA contract like Mesa with Freedom a few years back.

My two cents.
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Old 03-08-2007 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanchez
The only thing that can be done in a situation like this is educate the masses. I'm a bit dissapointed in ALPA for not taking the initiative to send a rep to every college, fbo, and/or flight school of any type, and explain to prospective pilots the effects of working at a scab operation like gojets. The negative impact to the industry as a whole.

In other words, if they can't hire enough people, eventually they might be forced to intergrate the pilot groups, without compromising the TSA contract like Mesa with Freedom a few years back.

My two cents.
ALPA misses the boat on a lot of things, it is because they think like a union employee (me, me, me, me, me) Once they stop thinking like that, they MIGHT be able to do some things worthwhile. They just are not business minded.
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Old 03-08-2007 | 08:55 PM
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AOPA can send mail three times over to anyone and everyone out there. ALPA could at least send a leaflet
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Old 03-08-2007 | 08:59 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I'm very much pro-ALPA, but I do have to admit that in my humble opinion they have dropped the ball on this one. Maybe emails and mail outs like duck said...anything to educate folks on this issue before it turns into a bigger problem.
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Old 03-09-2007 | 08:47 AM
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Unfortunately, the only way to really get rid of them would be to negotiate it with the company. This would require massive concessions, PLUS the integration of the GJ seniority list into TSA. Very, very painful (mesa did this with Freedom A, look where THEY are today)

The fact that GJ is "represented" by teamsters doesn't make this any easier
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"represented" with the quotes, is the key word.
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Old 03-09-2007 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanchez
The only thing that can be done in a situation like this is educate the masses. I'm a bit dissapointed in ALPA for not taking the initiative to send a rep to every college, fbo, and/or flight school of any type, and explain to prospective pilots the effects of working at a scab operation like gojets. The negative impact to the industry as a whole.

In other words, if they can't hire enough people, eventually they might be forced to intergrate the pilot groups, without compromising the TSA contract like Mesa with Freedom a few years back.

My two cents.
Is this suprising that ALPA didn't do anything? Sure isnt for me.
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Old 03-09-2007 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mking84
Is this suprising that ALPA didn't do anything? Sure isnt for me.
they were too busy balancing thier sticker budget.
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Old 03-09-2007 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ScaryKite
they were too busy balancing thier sticker budget.
HAHAHA Exactly.
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