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I'm curious as to whether there is anyone considering going to GoJet at this time. If so, could you tell us why you would consider going to GoJet after seeing the history of how they treat people, their prospects for the future, their pay scale?

 

So I guess this is me. I'm choosing them because A. They're paying for my rotor transition, you instantly get into a school date unlike the other airlines, (want to start working again) and finally they have a partnership where if your military and in good standing with gojet you go to Atlas after a year. I did interview and signed with them before all the new payscales come out but hopefully gojet will announce sommething soon for FO's because honestly I'd be happy with even just 70$ an hour.

Sure I've read all the forums and all the terrible stuff but tbh like I'm just excited to get into the airlines and have the dream job. Sure if what everyone is saying is true it won't be the best job, but still the dream job, and I highly doubt this will be worse than the army. And I guess I'm overly optimistic, guess ill find out for myself in the coming weeks.

 

Imagine if you get through training, finish IOE, get placed on reserve in EWR and never get called to fly. You may get some hours doing volunteer on your days off. A year of that, you have 150 hours of SIC, nowhere close to upgrade to get out of there. With the current shortage of captains and dwindling flight hours overall, you'll be trapped on the low end of a seniority list that doesn't fly because nobody is getting the hours to upgrade.

Line holder FOs are currently sitting around not flying. Their flying is being given to new hires on IOE.

In the past 9 months, Gojet have gone from 20 people in class to 2-4 showing up per class. They only get the occasional street captain or visa worker.

Their management, and even some of their employees, will tell you things are great, classes are full, United loves the airplane, conversions are happening etc. It was true immediately after COVID, before the hiring cycle started to really impact their staffing. Now it's just a lie they tell to try and rescue the sinking ship they're in. You'll be the plug trying to stop that ship from sinking. Like a pyramid scam, those above you prey on the fresh meat. Gojet will sink.

Ask them for a number of pilots who have flowed to Atlas, Spirit and United. It's very, very few. And they'll find a way to screw you too. What will happen to the flow if you have a training failure? Ask them for a detailed breakdown of the training failure rate of rotor transition pilots.

 

Thank you for the information. Does no other regional provide financing for rotor transition? Have you called SkyWest or Envoy and asked them what they might be able to offer you? The Atlas info seems to be rather difficult to believe. Why would GJ want to invest money into you and then have you leave in a year. Can anyone let us know if GoJet actually sends people to Atlas after only a year?

 

One reason for those with 1500hr wanting to go to a ULCC, fastest way is probably to complete training here (immediate small class date, no trainingdelays) then put apps in.

Reserve time right now over a year, flying 15hrs/month. Great if after QOL and living in base I guess.

 

The Atlas programmed haven't sent anyone in years. As far as I know it's not an active program. Same with Spirit, nobody ever flows. It was halted at gojets request. Frontier terminated their flow program when Gojet was caught withholding candidates and lying about it. "no only four people wanted to flow this month, sorry".

 

Skywest does a tuition reimbursement up to 25k, but gojet pays 35k up front which works better for my financial situation. None of the American airlines wholly owned offer anything. They used to but not since covid. MESA does but they are super back up for class dates is my understanding.

And that is unfortunate to hear about the atlas program. I was told it was active by the recruiters hiring me.

 

The big question I would be asking is what the payback terms for the RTP/CTP are. If the company folds before you finish are you responsible to pay them back? Because Hulas will definitely come for his money.

 

I remember when I worked in the office as they were shutting down TSA, they were telling new hires in ground school "if you don't resign by Friday, we are gonna have to terminate you and you don't want that on your PRIA" and then when they quit, Hulas would come after them for the bonus money because they "resigned" before the commitment was up