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Old 03-08-2023, 10:11 PM
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There is no future at GoJet. Even the high level management has been leaving.
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Old 03-09-2023, 01:36 AM
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I am a captain at SkyWest. I have been yearning the IAD base for years. Is the new 125k bonus per year a good incentive for lateral transition? Plus how long is the new GoJet TA for? Thanks.
I’m not sure what the terms of that bonus are as far as payout goes. But if Blojet goes under in the next year you can bet you won’t see a penny.
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Old 03-11-2023, 05:46 AM
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Y'know, I mentioned this a while back, but....

I keep hearing, every year, that GoJet is going out of business. I keep hearing that about Commutair and Mesa, too. Supposedly Air Wisconsin is on its last breath.

When I ask why the beliefs are so fervent and strong that these airlines are going out of business any minute now, I get the same answer: the FFD model is not sustainable!

But....it sure seems to be, doesn't it? Hell, SKW used to own a couple other regionals. RPA is 10X the size of C5 and seems to be doing just fine.

So...I hear the doom from the mountain - I get it - I just don't understand why, and maybe there's some rationality out there in the histrionics and hand-wringing. I don't know, honestly.

OP - if you're a CA, it seems you can get hired by a lot of legacies right now, and if you want IAD, you certainly would have a shot at UA, I think. Like the others have said, a DCA base is do-able, too.

Can't say if a lateral move would be worth it or not - if you're a CA, you have some seniority and while the allure of a $135K payoff is strong, DEC and lack of seniority (and the likelihood that they'll absolutely flog you on the schedule) does not seem like a prudent move given the other options you have.

But I'm just an FO at a dying FFD regional who freely admits he doesn't really understand the business in the face of the doom.
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Old 03-11-2023, 05:58 PM
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Y'know, I mentioned this a while back, but....

I keep hearing, every year, that GoJet is going out of business. I keep hearing that about Commutair and Mesa, too. Supposedly Air Wisconsin is on its last breath.

When I ask why the beliefs are so fervent and strong that these airlines are going out of business any minute now, I get the same answer: the FFD model is not sustainable!

But....it sure seems to be, doesn't it? Hell, SKW used to own a couple other regionals. RPA is 10X the size of C5 and seems to be doing just fine.

So...I hear the doom from the mountain - I get it - I just don't understand why, and maybe there's some rationality out there in the histrionics and hand-wringing. I don't know, honestly.

OP - if you're a CA, it seems you can get hired by a lot of legacies right now, and if you want IAD, you certainly would have a shot at UA, I think. Like the others have said, a DCA base is do-able, too.

Can't say if a lateral move would be worth it or not - if you're a CA, you have some seniority and while the allure of a $135K payoff is strong, DEC and lack of seniority (and the likelihood that they'll absolutely flog you on the schedule) does not seem like a prudent move given the other options you have.

But I'm just an FO at a dying FFD regional who freely admits he doesn't really understand the business in the face of the doom.
Pardon my ignorance, what does FFD stand for?
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Old 03-11-2023, 06:32 PM
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Fixed Fee Departures, regional airlines with contracts for fixed price per flight. The major pays the same regardless how many passengers are onboard, and the regional management personnel forges all the safety statements and documents they need to in order to operate within that fixed budget.
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Old 03-16-2023, 12:39 PM
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UAL is hiring....
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Old 03-16-2023, 01:31 PM
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So...I hear the doom from the mountain - I get it - I just don't understand why, and maybe there's some rationality out there in the histrionics and hand-wringing. I don't know, honestly..
Unsustainable systems last longer and fall faster than anyone expects. There’s some circular logic there but it’s still true. FFD has 3* customers. As long as those customers keep paying, planes move. If regional lift has 97% of the costs of mainline, they will pay. 101% and you can get a crj200 reeeeeeeeal cheap. It’s hard to know how close they are to the edge.



* Alaska doesn’t really count
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Old 03-16-2023, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by killbilly View Post
I keep hearing, every year, that GoJet is going out of business. I keep hearing that about Commutair and Mesa, too. Supposedly Air Wisconsin is on its last breath.
Some people heard that TSA, Compass, Great Lakes, Expressjet, etc were going out of business. Yet they ignored the warning signs, applied to work there, and lost their jobs when those companies failed.

So yeah, ignore the signs if you want. Or don't. You do you.
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Old 03-18-2023, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by killbilly View Post
Y'know, I mentioned this a while back, but....

I keep hearing, every year, that GoJet is going out of business. I keep hearing that about Commutair and Mesa, too. Supposedly Air Wisconsin is on its last breath.

When I ask why the beliefs are so fervent and strong that these airlines are going out of business any minute now, I get the same answer: the FFD model is not sustainable!

But....it sure seems to be, doesn't it? Hell, SKW used to own a couple other regionals. RPA is 10X the size of C5 and seems to be doing just fine.

So...I hear the doom from the mountain - I get it - I just don't understand why, and maybe there's some rationality out there in the histrionics and hand-wringing.
GoJet has no brain waives. GoJet has died. United is paying Skywest to keep them from taking the planes from what I see. Does that create an opportunity for someone to make a bunch of money filling GJ's huge need for pilots? Possibly. At Skywest a pilot can have all the 150% flying he can fit onto his schedule without the risk of having to go start at the bottom again somewhere. If I was hiring for Delta and someone walked in and had left Skywest to go to Gojet, I guess my first thoughts would be that the person is willing to take huge risks with little chance of reward. Not great airline pilot material.
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Old 03-19-2023, 08:04 AM
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Gojet isn't an airline.

Gojet is a psychological experiment in deception.
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