SkyWest to GoJet
SkyWest to GoJet
03-07-2023, 07:06 AM
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If you were applying to work at a restaurant, Skywest would be the downtown steakhouse with a national brand name, high class waiters and educated chefs. Maybe not Ruth's Chris Steakhouse or Morton (that's DL/AA/UA), but in the same class as Texas Roadhouse, Olive Garden or maybe Capital Grille. They'll be worth going through the trouble to work for, they'll look good on your resume, and you'll feel good about yourself working there. You can survive working there for a bit longer than you plan, hell, there's even people happily making a career out of it.
Gojet would be the taco shack operated out of a doublewide on blocks outside a gas station on the edge of town offering you $500 if you can start immediately, and get paid cash at the end of your 12 hour shift. No interview, you learn on the job, you'll just microwave the beef and get the food out to the customer.
Both may work out for your needs, but you will have a harder time getting a better job coming from the taco shack because you didn't put in the effort to get a respectable job up front.
Just my opinion, the only valid reason to choose Gojet is if you already live in one of their bases, or would move to any base you get hired into anyway.
Gojet would be the taco shack operated out of a doublewide on blocks outside a gas station on the edge of town offering you $500 if you can start immediately, and get paid cash at the end of your 12 hour shift. No interview, you learn on the job, you'll just microwave the beef and get the food out to the customer.
Both may work out for your needs, but you will have a harder time getting a better job coming from the taco shack because you didn't put in the effort to get a respectable job up front.
Just my opinion, the only valid reason to choose Gojet is if you already live in one of their bases, or would move to any base you get hired into anyway.
03-07-2023, 07:08 AM
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Gojet is an imposter airline operated by small private capital (a guy named Hulas owns it, and Terry Bash'em and Rick Leech runs it, who's life mission is to find the cheapest pilots anywhere in the world and employ them). Gojet employs as few people as possible to keep their operating certificate, lease a floor in a building the city of Bridgeton wants to get rid of, runs as lean a training program as they can. G7 don't really care about or invest in the safety and competency of their pilots, you're left to run the airline yourself as a frontline worker.
Gojet revenue is about 50 million, peaked at 140 million some years ago I believe (it's private, so no insight). Skywest revenue 2.7 billion.
Skywest: 500 airplanes, 15000 employees (Gojet runs and owns NOTHING).
Gojet: 25-35 airplanes, 40 in storage for lack of pilots, parting out jets as they downsize, and about 600 employees. They used to have over 1000 employees, but they're a company on the way out of existence. It's being propped up and kept alive only to use as negotiating leverage against Skywest, because they control the prices when United comes to negotiate... United used to threaten Skywest with "we'll give the flying to Gojet!", but this doesn't work anymore. The CRJ-550 product is also contingent on a scope relief vote at United, which you've seen in my posting history that I've rambled against, and the scope relief was removed from the new proposed TA at United. So without the scope relief management at UA was seeking, the CRJ-550 is very unlikely to have a long term future.
Gojet revenue is about 50 million, peaked at 140 million some years ago I believe (it's private, so no insight). Skywest revenue 2.7 billion.
Skywest: 500 airplanes, 15000 employees (Gojet runs and owns NOTHING).
Gojet: 25-35 airplanes, 40 in storage for lack of pilots, parting out jets as they downsize, and about 600 employees. They used to have over 1000 employees, but they're a company on the way out of existence. It's being propped up and kept alive only to use as negotiating leverage against Skywest, because they control the prices when United comes to negotiate... United used to threaten Skywest with "we'll give the flying to Gojet!", but this doesn't work anymore. The CRJ-550 product is also contingent on a scope relief vote at United, which you've seen in my posting history that I've rambled against, and the scope relief was removed from the new proposed TA at United. So without the scope relief management at UA was seeking, the CRJ-550 is very unlikely to have a long term future.
03-07-2023, 07:14 AM
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When you pull up to a gate with your Gojet airplane, the gate agents go "who?" What airline is that? When you ask for maintenance, they go "idk you guys don't have maintenance here". Gojet will ground your airplane until they can fly a mechanic to you on their next flight, which is sometimes the next day for simple deferrals.
If you want IAD, WHY NOT JUST COME WORK FOR UNITED DIRECTLY? Instead of undercutting the labor agreements by providing service for a scope buster.
If you want IAD, WHY NOT JUST COME WORK FOR UNITED DIRECTLY? Instead of undercutting the labor agreements by providing service for a scope buster.
03-07-2023, 04:12 PM
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Why in God's name are you not applying to LCCs or Majors if you want more money/QOL?? If you want IAD just go to a career fair and try for United. I guess if you were close to retirement it would make sense for a quick 125k but in this environment if you're even considering a dumpster fire like GoJet something is wrong with you
03-07-2023, 08:28 PM
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I love Texas Roadhouse.
In all seriousness I cannot recommend gojet to anyone they are bottom of the barrel when it comes to regionals. I have a feeling their days are counted and won’t be around much longer. From outright illegal treatment of employees and immoral treatment I’d rather commute to Skywest and try hard to get on with United or AA for the DCA base. Good luck.
In all seriousness I cannot recommend gojet to anyone they are bottom of the barrel when it comes to regionals. I have a feeling their days are counted and won’t be around much longer. From outright illegal treatment of employees and immoral treatment I’d rather commute to Skywest and try hard to get on with United or AA for the DCA base. Good luck.
Originally Posted by TwoDaysBehind
If you were applying to work at a restaurant, Skywest would be the downtown steakhouse with a national brand name, high class waiters and educated chefs. Maybe not Ruth's Chris Steakhouse or Morton (that's DL/AA/UA), but in the same class as Texas Roadhouse, Olive Garden or maybe Capital Grille. They'll be worth going through the trouble to work for, they'll look good on your resume, and you'll feel good about yourself working there. You can survive working there for a bit longer than you plan, hell, there's even people happily making a career out of it.
Gojet would be the taco shack operated out of a doublewide on blocks outside a gas station on the edge of town offering you $500 if you can start immediately, and get paid cash at the end of your 12 hour shift. No interview, you learn on the job, you'll just microwave the beef and get the food out to the customer.
Both may work out for your needs, but you will have a harder time getting a better job coming from the taco shack because you didn't put in the effort to get a respectable job up front.
Just my opinion, the only valid reason to choose Gojet is if you already live in one of their bases, or would move to any base you get hired into anyway.
Gojet would be the taco shack operated out of a doublewide on blocks outside a gas station on the edge of town offering you $500 if you can start immediately, and get paid cash at the end of your 12 hour shift. No interview, you learn on the job, you'll just microwave the beef and get the food out to the customer.
Both may work out for your needs, but you will have a harder time getting a better job coming from the taco shack because you didn't put in the effort to get a respectable job up front.
Just my opinion, the only valid reason to choose Gojet is if you already live in one of their bases, or would move to any base you get hired into anyway.
03-07-2023, 09:57 PM
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Beginning your second day of training, each day when you get up, you will quickly pull up APC and check to see if GJ is still in business. Will you finish training before GJ closes down? Probably, but it might be close. Send a SW company email to 51747 and you can get all the information you will need to help make your decision.
03-08-2023, 10:43 AM
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It's understandable that you may want to lateral to a regional for a quick bonus instead of going to work for low wages at United. But in 3-4 years you will earn the $125,000 back over time with improved 401k match. Do the math, it still makes sense to go to a major airline despite the poor contracts and comparably low wages at United/AA and the lack of $100k+ bonuses at DL. /s
03-08-2023, 07:04 PM
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Outside the airport there's people holding signs saying Jesus Saves ...
If I can save one life from going to Gojet...
OP just needs a little inspiration to go to United instead of applying to Gojet.
United have some of the QOL aspects of Gojets TA. Not the commuter hotels, the bonuses, the pick-any-domicile-you-want, or the uniform and parking reimbursement... Gojet does have 12-hour LCR and limits on SCR conversion, and no global reserve, no airport standby, no co-domiciles. United may lack the commuter reimbursement/positive space and the free bag. You don't get the cool leather jacket at United, but Gojet gives you the option to look like a real pilot in leather.
The vastly superior contract at Gojet should not discourage you from United. There's some great perks in the United contract as well, although I can't think of them right now. Maybe you should pick Gojet over United. Until United gets a contract that matches Gojet, you can enjoy Gojets superior QOL that had 80% of their captains quit over the last couple years. I'm actually getting confused myself trying to save you from Gojet. Maybe it is superior to United.
If I can save one life from going to Gojet...
OP just needs a little inspiration to go to United instead of applying to Gojet.
United have some of the QOL aspects of Gojets TA. Not the commuter hotels, the bonuses, the pick-any-domicile-you-want, or the uniform and parking reimbursement... Gojet does have 12-hour LCR and limits on SCR conversion, and no global reserve, no airport standby, no co-domiciles. United may lack the commuter reimbursement/positive space and the free bag. You don't get the cool leather jacket at United, but Gojet gives you the option to look like a real pilot in leather.
The vastly superior contract at Gojet should not discourage you from United. There's some great perks in the United contract as well, although I can't think of them right now. Maybe you should pick Gojet over United. Until United gets a contract that matches Gojet, you can enjoy Gojets superior QOL that had 80% of their captains quit over the last couple years. I'm actually getting confused myself trying to save you from Gojet. Maybe it is superior to United.
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