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RuttR 08-31-2011 03:20 PM

Hiring street captains, if they are, while having qualified FO's on property would say a lot about their CBA and what the company thinks about their employees. Keep in mind, outsourced flying will continue grow as long theres someone ready and willing to work for less. You may have good intentions for working there, "to get the time and get out", but we're getting to the point when we're getting the time, but can't get out, because regionals keep growing while mainline shrinks.

GearMover 08-31-2011 04:18 PM

There is always that.........but before anyone makes the jump think about the Delta Connection system. Delta has stated many times the want to REDUCE the number of DCI carriers. How many companies have flown for Delta using Delta owned planes and lost that flying?? Most have other flying displaced pilots could do. Gojets doesnt own the planes and doesnt have the contracts to place pilots if the Delta flying goes away. Just something to think about.

Good luck to anyone that thinks Gojets is a good option.

bernouli 08-31-2011 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by buffalopilot (Post 1047230)
even going to GoJet as an FO. If you have the time ungrade is at a year and with the new Delta flying, may be even shorter.

Things to consider.

Pros:

GoJet is growing at the moment, that can always change.
Upgrade mins are more than likely going to be dropped a few hundred hrs, so they can happen internally, at least at first.
The company doesn't have the staffing for another 12 aircraft at the moment. Mass hiring to come starting next month....160-200 pilots are the numbers I heard.
United guys and gals should be departing soon. Even more movement.
Talk of dtw base.

Cons:

Apc cruisers will say they hate you, Which is laughable.
It's a regional airline, and the employee group is treated as such.
Can't Jumpseat on Mesaba. They're pretty much the only ones. No agreement is in line between the two. With delta flying, something tells me that will change.

lakehouse 08-31-2011 04:49 PM

Cant jumpseat on anyone really.

Herbie 08-31-2011 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by OCCP (Post 1047280)
I hate to admit it, but I'm thinking about applying there too. I'm 33 numbers away from holding CA at XJT but I think GoJet has a brighter future.

You may want to think good and hard about that. I am further away from upgrade than that (until we get those magic ATR's, that is!?!?!??) and I have no intent of going there even if we get shutdown and I can keep half my longevity.

You gotta do what you gotta do at the end of the day. Bottom line, all regionals are what they are. This one is just at the bottom of the hill that the race is leading to. I really don't think XJT is going anywhere anytime soon. Especially if they are giving you guys a cool new name. ;)

My contempt for this particular group is the attitude of "I know I walked over the back of a bunch of furloughed guys to get here, but they really don't care anymore and I am just here to get my 1,000 PIC and get out." First of all, that attitude has created this S*@t show in the first place. And two, Southwest and American are not going to be ringing your phone off the hook once you write down 1,000 hours of PIC turbine on your resume.

Anyway, rant over.

Dash8Capt4now 08-31-2011 05:03 PM

So is it me or isn't this whole GoJet bashing getting old? I don't work for TSA nor GoJet but why are we still stuck on what happen in the past? Not looking for any flamebait here but seriously. I am highly aware about the state of outsourcing flying to the regionals and flying bigger airplanes for puke wages. In my own opinion, all regionals have their own issues. Some are better with respect to having contracts and what not but what is the real problem in this industry? As mainline flying starts to shrink, the possibility of being stuck at a regional is not far fetched.

Who cares where somebody works. Do the furloughed jet for jobs United guys catch slack and flamebait for working at GoJet? My whole point being, I am pretty sure this industry has way other problems then to worry about where somebody works.

I happen to work for arguably one of the worst, pathetic and embarrassing regionals to ever operate and yes it is an all turboprop circus. I am biased about not having any jet time because apparently I am looked at differently by some hiring boards. Anybody else see this as another problem? Realistically speaking here, do the GoJet pilots really have problems jumpseating? We can rant and rave all day long on here but who is gonna be the one to deny a jumpseater just because they work for a certain carrier? As a commuter myself, it sucks regardless. I don't care who you work for but you are welcome in my jumpseat. The guy/gal you just denied didn't make it home that night to see his family.

pause 08-31-2011 05:07 PM


It's thinking like this that has created the race to the bottom... "I just want to get in, get my 1,000 PIC and get out!"

Just don't come looking for a ride on my jumpseat...
Worked for me

nwa757 08-31-2011 05:13 PM

Just the fact that you are calling it a "dilemma" should tell you something.

Swedish Blender 08-31-2011 05:13 PM

No they're not. Every time someone like you chooses to use that word, it makes it mean less.

buffalopilot 08-31-2011 05:34 PM

So according to the haters, I am to do the "right thing", sit right seat for 30k a year for then next 5 years and never get out, or do the "wrong thing", go to GoJEt, get my hours and at least 60k a year and have a better chance of moving on. Hmmm. Which one? Once in a while in order to succeed, you need to bet on the underdog. Also, If I was ever denied a JS or confronted about working there, it would not be pretty.


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