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Old 12-16-2011 | 10:50 AM
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Well maybe enough guys can get in to G7 to the point that they won't roll over in negotiations, try to get a union that does something, and try to make something of the place. I know it's all fear and intimidation over there but if you get a big enough pilot group chances are some people are going to grow a pair.
What about the numerous ATA, United, Midwest, et cetera guys who are over there? Why haven't they pushed for change?
Old 12-16-2011 | 11:11 AM
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What about the numerous ATA, United, Midwest, et cetera guys who are over there? Why haven't they pushed for change?
UAL and ATA guys are getting more and more involved as time passes.
Old 12-16-2011 | 11:30 AM
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UAL and ATA guys are getting more and more involved as time passes.
Finally they've come to the realization that they might be there for a while, huh?
Old 12-16-2011 | 11:42 AM
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Finally they've come to the realization that they might be there for a while, huh?
You could be very correct. But with 2012 looming and if the FAA ever gets off their ass with time and duty, maybe things will improve. Am I ever counting on things at the airlines to improve? NOPE! When a ATC controller falls asleep and within two days they have changes, yet pilots get tired and three years later it is the SAME **** that is the point where I give up. I love my job but have given up on any sanity in this industry.

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Old 12-18-2011 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by whoareyou310
Some of this is true..but GOJETS is well below even the bottom feeders...union represented??? that is a joke.. even though I am not an avid ALPA supporter, ALPA looks like angels compared to the teamsters.
Interesting comment. I too am an ALPA member (not a big fan either), however, why is it everyone from American, Polar, Atlas, US Airways, America West, etc. has kicked their asses off the property. Also, my friends from Braniff, Pan Am, Eastern, Midway, TWA sued the crap out of them. Wonder what all that is about???
Old 12-18-2011 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KingBird50
You could be very correct. But with 2012 looming and if the FAA ever gets off their ass with time and duty, maybe things will improve. Am I ever counting on things at the airlines to improve? NOPE! When a ATC controller falls asleep and within two days they have changes, yet pilots get tired and three years later it is the SAME SH**, that is the point where I give up. I love my job but have given up on any sanity in this industry.
So the FAA is involved in both; and in one instance things get changed quickly and in the other things are dragging along.
I wonder what the difference might be

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Old 12-18-2011 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
I wonder what the difference might be

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One word. Money.
Old 12-18-2011 | 07:30 PM
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So the FAA is involved in both; and in one instance things get changed quickly and in the other things are dragging along.
I wonder what the difference might be

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One word. Money.
Exactly.
Interference being run from another angle.
Sounds to me like some are looking right past that the problem might begin and end in other sectors - like their own backyards.

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Old 12-25-2011 | 07:56 PM
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east coast base soon (for LGA market); delta flying to begin in a couple weeks;

lot of positive things coming from GoJet. good time to get on with the company.
Old 12-25-2011 | 10:43 PM
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What's all this I hear about gojet not being able to staff flying in other threads?
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