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12-26-2011 | 10:13 AM
#191
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I have never witnessed that either. I have, seen a grey haired United pilot walk out of a crew room with an un-tucked shirt and a backpack. But I use hair gel, so I am sure he thought I looked like an unprofessional hooligan.
12-26-2011 | 06:07 PM
#192
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You changed your response so my question is to your original statement.
Are all the recent Trans States guys going over there with pref hiring d-bags for using the protection in the new contract that ALPA negotiated for?
I understand the frustration with GJ but in 5 or 10 years is it really going to matter anymore? With the pref hiring, ALPA has now condoned going to GJ. Not that ALPA's position on the matter is my or your guiding judgment, but it does mean a little something.
Are all the recent Trans States guys going over there with pref hiring d-bags for using the protection in the new contract that ALPA negotiated for?
I understand the frustration with GJ but in 5 or 10 years is it really going to matter anymore? With the pref hiring, ALPA has now condoned going to GJ. Not that ALPA's position on the matter is my or your guiding judgment, but it does mean a little something.
As for the Trans States guys going there, that's their decision. I'm one of those guys who made the decision not to go there. Exploring other avenues. Would GoJet get me what I needed (TPIC) faster than the way I'm going about it now? Probably, yes. But it's a personal choice. I'll take the long, high road and feel good about myself. And really, that's all that matters. If you can live with yourself working for GoJet, so be it. Do I agree with you? Certainly not.
As for ALPA, they can stick their "preferential hiring" where the sun don't shine. What a worthless piece of junk that is. If we could use it to get on with Compass, that'd be great, but you're still working for the same man who furloughed you in the first place. I'd rather start over at Skywest Inc. (ExpressJet or Skywest) or ... well, basically that's it. I don't agree with Republic, Eagle's in the sh!tter, PinaColAba's about to get nasty, GIA sucks, Great Lakes ain't much better, ain't nowhere looking decent right now. Basically I'm looking at ACMI, international contracts, converting to JAA, or bust. I doubt I'll ever come back to the regional world.
12-26-2011 | 06:55 PM
#193
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Carl, I’m not trying to call you out at all. I know you personally and respect you and your opinions but they are that, your opinions. As well as my own opinions are just that, my opinions only.
My beef isn't so much with the pilots as it is with management. And by management, I mean anyone who answers directly to or is Hulas Kanodia. That man does not care about his employees or their families... and if he does, he has yet to prove it.
I respectfully disagree with the first part, why do you constantly call the pilots there d-bags as well as other derogatory names if your beef isn’t with them? To the second part, I couldn’t agree more. Hulas would step over his dying mother to pick up a nickel.
As for the Trans States guys going there, that's their decision. I'm one of those guys who made the decision not to go there. Exploring other avenues. Would GoJet get me what I needed (TPIC) faster than the way I'm going about it now? Probably, yes. But it's a personal choice. I'll take the long, high road and feel good about myself. And really, that's all that matters. If you can live with yourself working for GoJet, so be it. Do I agree with you? Certainly not.
My comment was not intended to get into you and I’s personal situations but since it was brought up… When we first got furloughed in 2008 I was one of the guys who choose not to go there just like you for very similar if not the same reasons as you and now I am getting f’d again and GJ is still growing and TSA is still shrinking. Had you and I gone there in 2008 we would be Captains now, instead we are taking it up the a$$ from Hulas again. Not saying we should have, just looking at the other side of the coin..
I don’t know that the TPIC thing will really be needed in the future (many already have gone away from requiring it) but that is another discussion for another thread.
While we all live our lives by our morals and values, we can’t live by someone else’s. Not sure what you’re agreeing or not agreeing with me about, I don’t have a class date over there. I was just curious about your outlook on your former TSA brethren since you called there pilots d-bags.
As for ALPA, they can stick their "preferential hiring" where the sun don't shine. What a worthless piece of junk that is. If we could use it to get on with Compass, that'd be great, but you're still working for the same man who furloughed you in the first place. I'd rather start over at Skywest Inc. (ExpressJet or Skywest) or ... well, basically that's it. I don't agree with Republic, Eagle's in the sh!tter, PinaColAba's about to get nasty, GIA sucks, Great Lakes ain't much better, ain't nowhere looking decent right now. Basically I'm looking at ACMI, international contracts, converting to JAA, or bust. I doubt I'll ever come back to the regional world.
More or less, agreed.
I respectfully disagree with the first part, why do you constantly call the pilots there d-bags as well as other derogatory names if your beef isn’t with them? To the second part, I couldn’t agree more. Hulas would step over his dying mother to pick up a nickel.
As for the Trans States guys going there, that's their decision. I'm one of those guys who made the decision not to go there. Exploring other avenues. Would GoJet get me what I needed (TPIC) faster than the way I'm going about it now? Probably, yes. But it's a personal choice. I'll take the long, high road and feel good about myself. And really, that's all that matters. If you can live with yourself working for GoJet, so be it. Do I agree with you? Certainly not.
My comment was not intended to get into you and I’s personal situations but since it was brought up… When we first got furloughed in 2008 I was one of the guys who choose not to go there just like you for very similar if not the same reasons as you and now I am getting f’d again and GJ is still growing and TSA is still shrinking. Had you and I gone there in 2008 we would be Captains now, instead we are taking it up the a$$ from Hulas again. Not saying we should have, just looking at the other side of the coin..
I don’t know that the TPIC thing will really be needed in the future (many already have gone away from requiring it) but that is another discussion for another thread.
While we all live our lives by our morals and values, we can’t live by someone else’s. Not sure what you’re agreeing or not agreeing with me about, I don’t have a class date over there. I was just curious about your outlook on your former TSA brethren since you called there pilots d-bags.
As for ALPA, they can stick their "preferential hiring" where the sun don't shine. What a worthless piece of junk that is. If we could use it to get on with Compass, that'd be great, but you're still working for the same man who furloughed you in the first place. I'd rather start over at Skywest Inc. (ExpressJet or Skywest) or ... well, basically that's it. I don't agree with Republic, Eagle's in the sh!tter, PinaColAba's about to get nasty, GIA sucks, Great Lakes ain't much better, ain't nowhere looking decent right now. Basically I'm looking at ACMI, international contracts, converting to JAA, or bust. I doubt I'll ever come back to the regional world.
More or less, agreed.
12-26-2011 | 07:34 PM
#194
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From: Devil's Advocate
Carl, I’m not trying to call you out at all. I know you personally and respect you and your opinions but they are that, your opinions. As well as my own opinions are just that, my opinions only.
1. I respectfully disagree with the first part, why do you constantly call the pilots there d-bags as well as other derogatory names if your beef isn’t with them? To the second part, I couldn’t agree more. Hulas would step over his dying mother to pick up a nickel.
2. My comment was not intended to get into you and I’s personal situations but since it was brought up… When we first got furloughed in 2008 I was one of the guys who choose not to go there just like you for very similar if not the same reasons as you and now I am getting f’d again and GJ is still growing and TSA is still shrinking. Had you and I gone there in 2008 we would be Captains now, instead we are taking it up the a$$ from Hulas again. Not saying we should have, just looking at the other side of the coin..
I don’t know that the TPIC thing will really be needed in the future (many already have gone away from requiring it) but that is another discussion for another thread.
While we all live our lives by our morals and values, we can’t live by someone else’s. Not sure what you’re agreeing or not agreeing with me about, I don’t have a class date over there. I was just curious about your outlook on your former TSA brethren since you called there pilots d-bags.
More or less, agreed.
Originally Posted by CaptainCarl
My beef isn't so much with the pilots as it is with management. And by management, I mean anyone who answers directly to or is Hulas Kanodia. That man does not care about his employees or their families... and if he does, he has yet to prove it.
Originally Posted by CaptainCarl
As for the Trans States guys going there, that's their decision. I'm one of those guys who made the decision not to go there. Exploring other avenues. Would GoJet get me what I needed (TPIC) faster than the way I'm going about it now? Probably, yes. But it's a personal choice. I'll take the long, high road and feel good about myself. And really, that's all that matters. If you can live with yourself working for GoJet, so be it. Do I agree with you? Certainly not.
2. My comment was not intended to get into you and I’s personal situations but since it was brought up… When we first got furloughed in 2008 I was one of the guys who choose not to go there just like you for very similar if not the same reasons as you and now I am getting f’d again and GJ is still growing and TSA is still shrinking. Had you and I gone there in 2008 we would be Captains now, instead we are taking it up the a$$ from Hulas again. Not saying we should have, just looking at the other side of the coin..
I don’t know that the TPIC thing will really be needed in the future (many already have gone away from requiring it) but that is another discussion for another thread.
While we all live our lives by our morals and values, we can’t live by someone else’s. Not sure what you’re agreeing or not agreeing with me about, I don’t have a class date over there. I was just curious about your outlook on your former TSA brethren since you called there pilots d-bags.
Originally Posted by CaptainCarl
As for ALPA, they can stick their "preferential hiring" where the sun don't shine. What a worthless piece of junk that is. If we could use it to get on with Compass, that'd be great, but you're still working for the same man who furloughed you in the first place. I'd rather start over at Skywest Inc. (ExpressJet or Skywest) or ... well, basically that's it. I don't agree with Republic, Eagle's in the sh!tter, PinaColAba's about to get nasty, GIA sucks, Great Lakes ain't much better, ain't nowhere looking decent right now. Basically I'm looking at ACMI, international contracts, converting to JAA, or bust. I doubt I'll ever come back to the regional world.
More or less, agreed.
2. I didn't intend to make a personal thing about you and me. Just my opinions as you stated, nothing more. And I wasn't talking about you personally having a class date over there. I was using "you" as a more general statement for "anyone who reads this." Sorry for the misunderstanding. And I agree, we all have to make a personal choice about our lives based on our moral values and past experiences. No one's holding a gun to your head. As for our TSA bros who end up over there... I don't know anyone who has decided to go over there, but I'm sure I will here in the near future. Sucks for them, I guess. They should've gone a long time ago if they were gonna do it now.
Like you said, we know each other, we got the mutual respect thing going on. My opinions are mine and yours are yours. Whatever I say here will probably have little effect on the world. I'm weening myself off the Forum little by little anyway, as I have bigger fish to fry. Even so, old habits die hard
12-26-2011 | 07:51 PM
#195
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My beef isn't so much with the pilots as it is with management. And by management, I mean anyone who answers directly to or is Hulas Kanodia. That man does not care about his employees or their families... and if he does, he has yet to prove it.
As for the Trans States guys going there, that's their decision. I'm one of those guys who made the decision not to go there. Exploring other avenues. Would GoJet get me what I needed (TPIC) faster than the way I'm going about it now? Probably, yes. But it's a personal choice. I'll take the long, high road and feel good about myself. And really, that's all that matters. If you can live with yourself working for GoJet, so be it. Do I agree with you? Certainly not.
As for ALPA, they can stick their "preferential hiring" where the sun don't shine. What a worthless piece of junk that is. If we could use it to get on with Compass, that'd be great, but you're still working for the same man who furloughed you in the first place. I'd rather start over at Skywest Inc. (ExpressJet or Skywest) or ... well, basically that's it. I don't agree with Republic, Eagle's in the sh!tter, PinaColAba's about to get nasty, GIA sucks, Great Lakes ain't much better, ain't nowhere looking decent right now. Basically I'm looking at ACMI, international contracts, converting to JAA, or bust. I doubt I'll ever come back to the regional world.
As for the Trans States guys going there, that's their decision. I'm one of those guys who made the decision not to go there. Exploring other avenues. Would GoJet get me what I needed (TPIC) faster than the way I'm going about it now? Probably, yes. But it's a personal choice. I'll take the long, high road and feel good about myself. And really, that's all that matters. If you can live with yourself working for GoJet, so be it. Do I agree with you? Certainly not.
As for ALPA, they can stick their "preferential hiring" where the sun don't shine. What a worthless piece of junk that is. If we could use it to get on with Compass, that'd be great, but you're still working for the same man who furloughed you in the first place. I'd rather start over at Skywest Inc. (ExpressJet or Skywest) or ... well, basically that's it. I don't agree with Republic, Eagle's in the sh!tter, PinaColAba's about to get nasty, GIA sucks, Great Lakes ain't much better, ain't nowhere looking decent right now. Basically I'm looking at ACMI, international contracts, converting to JAA, or bust. I doubt I'll ever come back to the regional world.
12-26-2011 | 08:20 PM
#196
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From: Devil's Advocate
I'd love to come join y'all. Just give me 6 months, I've got some house-cleaning to finish up.
12-27-2011 | 09:14 AM
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12-27-2011 | 09:17 AM
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Who else does G7 not have a recip agreement for the jumpseat with?
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