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Old 01-02-2012 | 07:53 PM
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JetA,

So you had poor career choices. Ok, I get that.
I am curious about your whole decision to no-show the class.
Basically you are taking the job from somebody who needs it. You might even be taking it from another furloughed guy who really needs it. GJ may think twice about hiring another furloughed guy. So the only person you screwed was the next guy who needed a job.

Not sure why you are "sticking it" to them? Did they somehow cause you to have a bad career?

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Old 01-03-2012 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Spartan74
JetA,

So you had poor career choices. Ok, I get that.
I am curious about your whole decision to no-show the class.
Basically you are taking the job from somebody who needs it. You might even be taking it from another furloughed guy who really needs it. GJ may think twice about hiring another furloughed guy. So the only person you screwed was the next guy who needed a job.

Not sure why you are "sticking it" to them? Did they somehow cause you to have a bad career?
JetA, If you will permit me....

Yes, GJ did make it more difficult for all of us. An airline set up as a shell game to circumvent a current contract and pilot group, and the people who chose to work there, drive the pay down and hurts us all.
Old 01-03-2012 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JetA Heartburn
I received a confirmation call from Kathy the other day to make sure I was still going to show up for the Jan 3rd class. I informed her that I would be there but there is no way in hell that I'm going to show up. I thought I would show up for the first day then never return but its not worth a spit in the bucket to do that.
The only industry that does not pay for experience is the airline industry. Get furloughed and start at the bottom because the union aint gonna help you and management loves it because any monkey with the mins can do it for cheaper.
I'm leaving the industry for good and I'm going to an asst. manager of customer realtions job that has a starting SALARY of 76,300. I also get better benefits than any crapline has to boot. Also I can make up to 40% of my SALARY as a bonus if the company meets targeted goals. History has shown that it has never paid out less than 92% of of annual bonus. It might be a 9-5er but I also get every other friday as half days.
Lets see... No overnights, no airports, no Jepp revesions, no recurrent, no hotels, no weekends, no holidays, no uniforms, no UNIONS, no *****ing from the other seat, no travel, no bidding every month, no senority, no UNION DUES, and did I say no UNIONS? Also did I mention its a SALARY and not an hourly job like Taco Bell. Wait, Taco Bell pays more for their counter help than all regional and some major airlines pays their first, second, third year pilots.
It took me 18yrs (2 regionals, 2 majors and a corporate gig) to realize the error of my ways.
I really hope it screws up their training class and sim cycles that I'm not there.
Glad you got out. One less guy who makes the job less than enjoyable for the rest of us. Flew with a guy 2 weeks ago that was just like you. Horrible attitude, and a bad pilot to boot. Worst trip I've had in years.

Thank you for leaving!

So a vacant chair and a new-hire that needs a sim seat filler is sticking it to them?

If you hold such a big grudge, why don't you do something that will actually register on their radar? This will inconvenience an admin assistant for about 3 minutes, while she puts your books back on the shelf, and throws your name tag in the trash.

P.S. I don't work for GoJet.
Old 01-03-2012 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
JetA, If you will permit me....

Yes, GJ did make it more difficult for all of us. An airline set up as a shell game to circumvent a current contract and pilot group, and the people who chose to work there, drive the pay down and hurts us all.
I do work for G7 and my question for you is where do you suggest I work? Sure I wish I worked for a major or FedEx or UPS but last I checked they're not hiring. So that leaves the regionals so which one is better than G7? Comair, ASA, Pinnacle, Mesa, Eagle, Skywest? Tell me one of those that is #1 not furloughing #2 does not have a 6-20 year upgrade. I don't want to sit right seat forever. So tell me which one I should work at and why. Pay? Did I miss something there? Is one of those other regionals going to pay me 50-60k as an FO??
Old 01-03-2012 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by paxhauler85
Glad you got out. One less guy who makes the job less than enjoyable for the rest of us. Flew with a guy 2 weeks ago that was just like you. Horrible attitude, and a bad pilot to boot. Worst trip I've had in years.

Thank you for leaving!

So a vacant chair and a new-hire that needs a sim seat filler is sticking it to them?

If you hold such a big grudge, why don't you do something that will actually register on their radar? This will inconvenience an admin assistant for about 3 minutes, while she puts your books back on the shelf, and throws your name tag in the trash.

P.S. I don't work for GoJet.
Amen! JetA, I am sorry you have been kicked around in your career. I guess you must be the only one that got the brochure in Flight School about "Beachside Condos, free beer, and Dancing Girls". You have screwed someone else out of a seat in that class, if you had a pair you would have called Kathy or Kristy and told them of your intentions, and with your professional integrity, I am glad you have decided to leave the industry. I am sure you would have been less than fun to fly with. I hope your new employer is not the next Enron.
Old 01-03-2012 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by KingBird50
I do work for G7 and my question for you is where do you suggest I work? Sure I wish I worked for a major or FedEx or UPS but last I checked they're not hiring. So that leaves the regionals so which one is better than G7? Comair, ASA, Pinnacle, Mesa, Eagle, Skywest? Tell me one of those that is #1 not furloughing #2 does not have a 6-20 year upgrade. I don't want to sit right seat forever. So tell me which one I should work at and why. Pay? Did I miss something there? Is one of those other regionals going to pay me 50-60k as an FO??

Oh, you...
Old 01-03-2012 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 727574drvr
Amen! JetA, I am sorry you have been kicked around in your career. I guess you must be the only one that got the brochure in Flight School about "Beachside Condos, free beer, and Dancing Girls". You have screwed someone else out of a seat in that class, if you had a pair you would have called Kathy or Kristy and told them of your intentions, and with your professional integrity, I am glad you have decided to leave the industry. I am sure you would have been less than fun to fly with. I hope your new employer is not the next Enron.
"Beachside Condos, free beer, and Dancing Girls" That brochure was printed by the same guy that prints the "40 acre Mountain view property's for sale in Northern AZ"

It should be "hotel by the runway, I can not afford free beer, No girls"
Old 01-03-2012 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by KingBird50
I do work for G7 and my question for you is where do you suggest I work? Sure I wish I worked for a major or FedEx or UPS but last I checked they're not hiring. So that leaves the regionals so which one is better than G7? Comair, ASA, Pinnacle, Mesa, Eagle, Skywest? Tell me one of those that is #1 not furloughing #2 does not have a 6-20 year upgrade. I don't want to sit right seat forever. So tell me which one I should work at and why. Pay? Did I miss something there? Is one of those other regionals going to pay me 50-60k as an FO??
At least you made it out of Comair - now you have the luxury of time. USAir, JetBlue, Atlas, Kalitta - all have hired our FOs with no PIC, but the process can take a while. I got calls from the ones where I didn't know a soul and never heard from the one I had 3 internal rec's. Keep after it!
Old 01-03-2012 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by KingBird50
I do work for G7 and my question for you is where do you suggest I work? Sure I wish I worked for a major or FedEx or UPS but last I checked they're not hiring. So that leaves the regionals so which one is better than G7? Comair, ASA, Pinnacle, Mesa, Eagle, Skywest? Tell me one of those that is #1 not furloughing #2 does not have a 6-20 year upgrade. I don't want to sit right seat forever. So tell me which one I should work at and why. Pay? Did I miss something there? Is one of those other regionals going to pay me 50-60k as an FO??




Most of the FO's I fly with make around 50k, give or take...
Old 01-03-2012 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Paid2fly
Most of the FO's I fly with make around 50k, give or take...
Several Comair FOs made that kind of money in 2011.

Of course they were still Captains for much of 2011.
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