Nothing this industry needs more than another selfish pilot!

Take a job at a carrier that has a horrible reputation in the industry just to get a quick upgrade..

I love how everybody at Gojet uses the "I need to feed my family" excuse. Like it is any different for everyone else...

 

Show me a pilot that isn't "selfish". You've always got to look out for number one yourself.

ALL regionals have a horrible reputation. Get in, upgrade ASAP and get out.

 

deleted....

 

Oh man, I was getting pretty mad for a second there...then I realized this is a joke. A joke, just like....

 

Just what management wants you to think. This is part of the regional mentality and why it can never improve. As of lately, new hire classes have been full of mostly low experience. But that's not really supposed to be the norm. It's hard to attract pilots with experience due to the low pay. But nothing about the job and what you do is entry level. First officers fly CRJ's in the same manner under the same sky, rules, physics and limitations as a 737 at a major. It's not uncommon to see people in new hire classes that have more experience than the training pilots themselves out on the line. This goes for majors and regionals.

So that regional airline being an entry level job is a pretty arrogant statement. Does that mean legacy carriers are entry level too because new hires have less experience than line captains at a regional? It would be an interesting dynamic if people were hired based on their experience. However, due to the seniority system there is no such thing as an entry level job in the airline environment.

 

Those experienced regional line captains you speak about are so experienced for a reason. They can't get a job at a major and are stuck at a regional flying 1000 hrs. a year.

 

Flying a swept wing multi engine jet full of passengers under 121 regs is entry level? Uhh...hardly brosef. Entry level is...instructing, pipeline, skydivers, banner towing, etc. A transport category jet is certainly NOT entry level.

 

The vast majority of regional newhires are entry level pilots. They are paid commensurate with the experience they bring to the job. If you want higher starting pay at the regionals, then it no longer becomes an entry level job as experienced pilots would be drawn to the position and therefore, the traditional inexperienced regional newhire would no longer be considered for the job.

What you guys want is for regional newhires with no experience to be paid like experienced pilots should be paid. You have to pay your dues and you can't have it both ways.

 

Not an entry-level job, just entry level pay. Pay the minimum, get the minimum out of people. It's easy for some to justify not paying a 'pilot' who can pass the checkride as being a commodity. "Safety" is a standard that every participant in the industry must meet, whether a ULCC, or an ultra-exclusive corporate product. Nothing unique here about the 'flying'. I can somewhat see parts of the logic.....but that falls apart.

However, we're also acting as representatives of the company, advocates for our passengers under certain situations, and most importantly, decision makers. IMO, that's where you see the fall-off in performance if you pay and treat people lousy. Try and quantify that. Hard to really care about whether the customer will come back when you're tired, hungry, and worrying about the credit card bill that includes your crashpad and commuting costs if that oh-so-benevolent-management-team-won't-let-you-nonrev-for-free-online.

 

I think what he meant was..... "A regional is considered Entry Level for part 121 career....."

For most, A regional is still the entry level for airlines career.

Now, a lot of people are looking at regionals as long term prospects & have made it their career & their final destination.