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Old 11-21-2011 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CzechAirman
You don't understand this most basic of concepts. If the regionals paid well and were not entry level positions, then ALL of you that in the last few years got hired with wet commercials, would not be hired at the regional level. The regionals would attract truly qualified newhires. You would have to pay your dues being a CFI or doing other traditional time building flying.
Who the F are you to insinuate that everyone hired in the last few years had wet commercials without CFI exp.?

So if the new hires at regionals are not truly qualified, how can they upgrade and fly as a CA in a year?
Old 11-21-2011 | 08:23 PM
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Southern Airlines?
How did you know????
Old 11-21-2011 | 08:24 PM
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How did you know????
the schedule you described.... I have a few close friends who had similar horror stories about the place.
Old 11-21-2011 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AviHater
If you have heavy international experience, maybe several type ratings, why don't you seek out some contract work overseas? There are several companies seeking both CAs and FOs in anything from 737s to 747.

If you go from one place that had a worthless contract to another, you must have some skeletons in your closet that prevents you from getting hired at a quality airline.
Cheap shot. Maybe if you you had some qualifications of your own you might be flying something without propellers??? Maybe you are a highly qualified aviator that is just stuck (right now) where you are at? Good Luck and Frats.
Old 11-21-2011 | 10:34 PM
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Cheap shot. Maybe if you you had some qualifications of your own you might be flying something without propellers??? Maybe you are a highly qualified aviator that is just stuck (right now) where you are at? Good Luck and Frats.
It is so sad to see a fellow aviator berate props. I'm sure the C130 pilots would have a word or two for you.

Props have their place, just as pistons and turbo jets have their place. If you cannot see that, well, you just aren't that smart.

You are at an age where IF you move on to a mainline, you will almost certainly NOT make CA before retirement.... especially if you spend ANY time at a regional. If you don't believe that, do a search and look for the age 65 retirements at the mainlines over the next twenty years.

I tried to present a non-partisan forecast of what your life would be like at GoJet. I stated no opinions about what some consider the evil of GoJet. I only offered the advice I would give a friend who was my age and had to make a jump. I believe my theories on what would happen if there were a paramilitary or financial attack are plausible. And all of my statements on pay and contracts can be backed up. The only negative I stated against GoJet was that they fly jets rather than props: jets being the territory of mainlines while props have historically been regionals. Additionally, since you said you didn't like to be away from home for weeks on end, I suggested props since they offer more time at home (remember the old saying: bigger plane, bigger suitcase).

You may not like what I said, but I would bet paychecks if you ask folks who have been around a while if my post was reasonable, they would say yes.

I don't care if you heed my advice, but don't insult me for offering it.

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Old 11-21-2011 | 11:09 PM
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I am trying to get on as a Capt as I am stuck in 135 on demand hell.
Old 11-22-2011 | 04:08 AM
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I have to disagree with you on this one. There are plenty of us at the mainlines (or that were at the mainlines) that understand what is going on at the regionals. Do you think no one has noticed how much less domestic flying is done now compared to ten years ago? When I was furloughed I certainly noticed that regional flying was being increased.
I remember when as a kid I would fly on a regional which was an Otter at Pilgrim Airlines. I also remember when flying from JFK to MIA meant flying on a wide body. Now you are very correct that mainline flying has decreased and regional flying has increased. But who is to blame for all this? The public for wanting more destinations? Mainline giving more flying to the regionals and wanting relaxed scope? Mainline pilots for allowing relaxed scope clauses? Or the regional guys that are trying to get ahead. Somehow it is always our fault but there is a lot of blame to go around.
Old 11-22-2011 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AviHater
Who the F are you to insinuate that everyone hired in the last few years had wet commercials without CFI exp.?

So if the new hires at regionals are not truly qualified, how can they upgrade and fly as a CA in a year?

I never said EVERYONE was hired with a wet commercial. Just those that were would not be hired if the regionals were not a truly entry level job.

Renslow was qualified, on paper.
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Originally Posted by 727574drvr
You are missing the point of this thread. Please stay on point. This isn't a moon shot. The guys at Delta, United, USairways, Southwest, etc., have never heard of any of this b@#sh&t and do not care anyway. Put the bong down and start listening to the music.

Guys at the majors just laugh when we read about the regional pilot high school drama queens whining about gojets.
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Originally Posted by AviHater
Nothing this industry needs more than another selfish pilot!

Take a job at a carrier that has a horrible reputation in the industry just to get a quick upgrade..

I love how everybody at Gojet uses the "I need to feed my family" excuse. Like it is any different for everyone else...
When we move in to the frat house on campus together----I will start considering you in my career moves. Until then---I am going to be a big boy and consider myself and family in what jobs I take just like anyone in the real world does.
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