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Originally Posted by pete2800 (Post 1787725)

You want West coast, and can move anywhere? I work at Horizon, and can offer this information:

- I've worked here 3 years, I'll very likely be offered an upgrade sometime this coming year. The company is planning 90 upgrades and 170-ish new hires in 2015, and I'm 50-something from the most junior Captain.

- You'd have your choice of several bases. All very much West coast.

- The pay is more than you'd make at many other regionals. Open time is frequently offered at 200%, with a 4-hour minimum. Our SAP system lets you drop to the minimum if you want maximum days off. I use a text alert system, and when I woke up this morning there were 6 alerts for 200% for today already. At my rate, that's $345 for showing up and flying 2 short legs. My annual income for the 3 years I've been here has been 34k, 48k, and I'm at 53k for this year so far. I usually work as little as possible, and only pick something up if it's too easy to turn down.

But but but....JETS! You don't have jets! Oh and seeing as this thread is GJT vs Mesa, you don't have shiny super heavy regional JETS! :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1787771)

That's awesome bruh. But looks like the quick upgrade express is stalled out on the tracks.

Then why am I still seeing captain bid awards in my inbox???

My dad is better than your dad.... LOL

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Originally Posted by tinman1 (Post 1787802)

Then why am I still seeing captain bid awards in my inbox???

Do everyone a favor. Spend less time giving your recruiters an old fashioned and more time fixing your disaster that is a contract.

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Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1787864)

Do everyone a favor. Spend less time giving your recruiters an old fashioned and more time fixing your disaster that is a contract.

You see that's the problem. You all want the regionals to improve so you can become content and spend the rest of your careers flying 50 seaters for OK wages. I want to see a huge catastrophe, an all out disaster, where the regionals can't staff and are dealt a fatal blow, forcing mainline to take the flying back.

So yeah, bring on the disaster. There will come a day when the regionals reach the end of the rope and start to die off, and we need to let it happen. The last thing we need to do is give pilots a reason to stay and make a career out of this mess that mainline management created. I know it sucks right now but it's better in the long run.

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Originally Posted by John2375 (Post 1786583)

lol.. well he was in a class of only 7….

1 guy, 6 girls, boom!

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Originally Posted by John2375 (Post 1786810)

90% pass rate is false. And there's plenty of ways to "fail" at Mesa just like any place.

Don't fail if they "ask" you to resign before the checkride. Real question is how many start and how many make it to the line.

My class of 20, two couldn't cut the mustard in the sim. One went to Gojet, other last I heard pdt.
Mesa does not want you to fail, they really don't. I hear horror stories at PSA. If you went to ALL ATPS and did well there in the fast pace environment, Mesa will be a walk in the park. I keep hearing captains in the crew room talking about newhires who can't fly worth a damn. Captains wondering how these guys made it past ioe, let alone the sim! So I doubt many are failing.
My own point of view is that these bad apples need mentoring in a stress free environment and be groomed into excellent pilots. Difference between someone who is considered good vs bad is how much time they required, in this environment. Regionals like Mesa cannot afford to let pilots go that can be made into good pilots.

And If your a captain, your also a flight instructor, and you also need to be able to fly single pilot if needed. If you can't or won't, you have no business being a captain.

Exactly. CRM is overrated. Why not just put a monkey in the right seat to hold charts and pick bed bugs out of your hair. Also, being able to read and WRITE in English is also overrated.