GoJet hiring Direct Entry Captains...
 

http://www.gojetairlines.com/careers/Pages/Pilots.aspx

Well I'll be damned. I guess they cant attract enough FOs to upgrade from within...

I like how the picture at the top of the page shows the captain sitting in the right seat... :rolleyes:

Saw that coming a mile away. That airline is hemorrhaging pilots.

"I upgraded in 6 months, I've been here for 9 years" Wait, so your "quick upgrade" came because you replaced TSA pilots out of seniority. Got it.

For anyone looking at Gojets, just keep in mind that the new hire bonus is a one time shot. Endeavor pays all the longevity years, $22K/year more. That is a around a $40,000-$50,000 difference in your first 3 years.

Now that they are hiring street captains, that also means anyone going there as a first officer will see longer upgrades since junior pilots to them will be upgrading over them.

Also keep in mind that Gojets was formed to subvert the TSA pilots in negotiating reasonable rates on 70 seat aircraft. If you think you will see a good contract and work rules there, you most likely will not. Many who have gone before you have learned the hard way.

You can also enjoy a on time arrival rate of 33% sounds fun

Be prepared to sit right seat as a captain for quite a while under this program. There's a lot of Captain/Captain flying here. This is G7's version of TSA's CQFO without the blended rate. If you want the PIC time, don't expect to get much. There's still captains on reserve here.

How senior is Denver?

Smaller base, most senior

Of course it would be, would you mind giving us an idea of what the other bases with like... Seniority wise and size

Enjoy no cancelation pay. You could go to TSA, have the same bases, and have a vastly better QOL. And that's saying something because TSA QOL isn't what all the other 76 seat carriers have.

For the record, we have had cancellation pay since December 1st. Also 300% pay for open time. New contract is coming soon, which will have cancellation pay (without having to file pay discrepancies).

I see several posts from a year ago saying the contract is coming soon. I talk to people who tell me that GJ union is merely asking for a middle range contract of what is already out there. Middle of pay rates and a few other things but none of the other things that Skywest and the others already have. Shouldn't they be going for a top pay contract so they are not back at the bottom again in a few months?

300% open time pay and they can't get people to fly or to go there, something is not being said. Gojet's contract with United is coming up soon. United does not want the CRJs and I don't think will renew. Does GJ have a plan? Will the CRJs be moved out of Chicago and Denver to Raleigh and New York? I'm hearing that is what is being looked at. Any info on any of this?

I know a lot of people that went there and almost all have left. They all recommend against going there. Does GJ have a future? Seems like 300% pay is better then the contract they are asking for. If they are flying you 90 hours a month you cannot pickup much of the 300% pay. They limit you to 97 hours a month so that would be 7 hours at triple time of 24 an hour. 7 times 24 times 3 is how much extra a month? 209 a month I think. 2400 a year. That is not much but 300% does sound like a lot. Who is giving 22k plus the overtime?

I just took a look at TheyCallMeRed's posts. He seems to be the big defender of gojet. Either he really likes it there or is part of management or recruiting. Seems like he tries to downplay anything negative by questioning the poster's ability to fly or to understand things. But his post above states facts so I am glad he is now doing a factual debate.

Can you get us additional facts? Any contract specifics?

Seems like a good deal for someone looking to get 500 PIC on an RJ though.

The second you call up and say they are violating your contract, they fire you. Well, at least that is the recurring theme I keep hearing, and your paystub not matching what you did. Good luck with that.

So you're saying there is no Union and no grievance process. Got it. Anyone can chime in with reality?

Let me start off by saying if you use this website to make career decisions then you really are stupid!!! The reason is because just whats going on in this thread. Certain people have grudges against certain regionals so they attack them. Hey guess what news break all regionals suck and they all have taken flying from others so get the f over it!! Now on the other topic of street captains at GoJet I have 2 good friends of mine that are Captains at G7 on 4th year pay making 100k a year this year and still getting 12-13 days off. I encourage all to use very little if any information from this web site for making career decisions. Oh by the way he also stated that the CEO announced in a call in show a few weeks ago that all United aircraft were renewed months ago and the Delta aircraft were renewed when they agreed to take the crj 900. I jusy have to laugh at all the BS that is spewed for truth by half wit know it all's on this site!

1.- UAL contracts renewed last year and UAL is currently installing wifi on the G7-700's , CRJ-7 flying isn't going Anywhere for a long time, some of these frames are only 6 years old

Delta has been known to cancel a regional's contract for not hitting performance metrics, and GoJet is not even close to the contractual minimum performance right now. (see Freedom) So keep that in mind when you say the flying isn't going anywhere... It's going elsewhere every day because GoJet can't cover it. Reserves at the rest of the DCI carriers are sitting reserve for GoJet at the same time.

I'm not known to defend GoJet, but you have no clue what a private company's CPA says and what its associated penalties are. Delta can't just yank the flying if it would be in violation of the CPA and would open themselves up to millions of dollars in lawsuits.

There have been some issues with the new Luftansa system but it's getting ironed out. G7 isn't losing any flying. I'd like to think there's a new industry leading contract coming but don't hold your breath for that. Industry average is about the best it's going to get.

GoJet has a future because we are cheap. That's how the regional industry works. And prior to the software switch, our performance numbers were not bad.

And limited to 97 hours month? I have no idea where you got that from. Many guys are crediting well over 100 hours a month with the open time pickup. Personally I've been enjoying living in base with 16 days off and good schedules so yeah, in my situation GoJet is a good stepping stone. Not to mention there is basically no reserve time if you're a new hire. I'm not saying this company is the best by any stretch of the imagination, but if you want to move up a short seniority list and have some QOL, it can work for you.

Don't be shocked to see your flying shifted back to mainline or Endeavor in the coming years. As for the issues, the problems will be do to staffing issues, not Luftansa, which will occur unless Gojet matches or leap frogs a type of package Endeavor offers. If not, they will struggle to staff in the coming years and Delta will be able to cancel their flying due to that. If you think I said that because I'm a Endeavor pilot, I'm not, just stating what is likely to occur with the current dynamics of what Delta is doing with Endeavor and the compensation/movement package.

Being cheap won't secure the future in this pilot staffing market. The regional that offers a compensation/movement package near Endeavor's will be the only type that will survive. And to achieve that level of compensation/movement, their mainline partners will need to pay them far more than they are now. Republic is already finding that hard to accomplish.

No matter how much the Gojet cheerleaders will lead you to believe, Gojet is no where near that. It was founded on the idea to subvert the TSA pilot group on decent 70-seat payrates and staffed with TSA pilots out of seniority. If you honestly think an airline founded on that premise will change, you're sorely mistaken.

How many on the list actually get 16 days off? Is that due to your pbs?

Which is exactly what by the way ? Just curious what numbers you have since I have the pdf in my possession going all the back to 2012 that lets say doesn't exactly support what your saying with the exception of about 1 month . Freedom/Mesa's contract was primarily terminated due to egregious business practices , unless your Bryan Williams at NBC maybe you should let us see all these facts , keep in mind I do realize this is the Internet , where everyone is right

Lots of it is probably due to much longer leg length than a 50 seater.

Mesa had a lot of cancellations back then. A lot due to their inability to staff prior to age 65 and economical crash eased the staffing issue back then. A staffing issue that was coming to a head mainly due to low compensation and a lack of a real mainline progression route worth while at the regionals, which is now occurring again.

Now other regionals are in the same boat and Gojet is one of them. I have a shovel and some sand if you want it.

Best thing to do is talk to a go jet pilot to get the facts. Most likely anyone saying anything positive about go jet is a recruiter who is trying to get you on the list so he can make some $$.

No I think you said that because there is a rumor floating around your message boards that 9E is taking our -700's. Look at Republic with the Delta suit.....they're still flying aren't they? The flying just doesn't go away overnight.

DH

I don't have any ties to Endeavor. Calling it as it is. Flying will likely shift away from Gojet in the future unless they match Endeavors compensation/regional-to-mainline contract, which won' happen.

Maybe, maybe not. The regional crystal ball is always fuzzy, no matter the market.

DH

GoJet isn't going anywhere.

They are a cancer on the profession for which there is no cure.

DL and UA are the tobacco companies. Empowering cancer.

I hate to say this but the pilots at the majors and Alpa let this happen. DM is right. Like Charlie Sheen, you get used to living with a disease you brought on yourself. You should have realized what it is you were doing when you did it. If you make a choice you must live with it.

This regional jet mess never should have happened. I don't blame the regional guys nd girls. I blame the pilots at the majors for ever letting this cancer happen.

I like this guy.

Does GoJet provide single or shared occupancy hotel rooms during training?

I found a post here stating that they're shared, but it was from a few years ago.

Your scheduling was limiting guys to 97 hours and also had several other limits, non FAA, to make sure you could pick up trips that might interfere with your schedule if something ran over. Guys tell me the padding kills them when trying to pick up the overtime.

Is is still impossible to change your schedule? If you need a day off and want to drop a trip and pick up another one they won't let you, even if the credit is the same?

I don't think G7 will be going anywhere because the airlines like lots of little regionals to compete to keep the prices down. But it does not look like there will be any new flying going to G7 because of their poor performance and the way they mistreat their employees. They can't grow if pilots won't go there. They are loosing captains while the other regionals are losing FOs to the growing companies. I know several GJ Captains who left to go to PSA and were captains there in less then a year. They are all happy with their decision. They tell me your career can be ruined because the company will be vindictive is you go against them. They fired a check airman who would not fly a plane from ORD to STL from an icy rwy during a snow storm with a 15 knot cross wind with the NOSEWHEEL STEERING INOP. (I met the guy.) Is G7 worth the risk? Do you want a busted line check on your record because someone wants to teach you a lesson? It sounds like a mess there. But is there opportunity in this mess?

That's a good thing right? Time to end this pay scale.

Omg is that a serious question? What pilot would accept that?

Compass pilots.