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D1115 11-18-2016 12:50 PM

GoJET the real story.
 
Before you decide on GoJet PM me. It's true that some have made it out unscathed, but you are playing roulette with your career. Management and recruitment there are an absolute embarrassment to the profession. More details to come....

bkey79 11-18-2016 01:00 PM

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Filler....

MrSkywest 11-18-2016 03:14 PM

I would not recommend talking to guys when are there as much as I would recommend talking to guys who are not there any longer. You will hear a lot of horror stories. There are a lot of good choices out there right now so I do not know why someone would consider this place, it is not a good choice.

I checked out the claims of a couple of guys about how great it is for them at Gojet and they didn't seem to make sense. One guy appears to be at a mainline carrier and not Gojet as his numbers were way off. He also didn't know the correct plane type that they fly. Seems someone is getting paid to recruit suckers off of this website.

Gearswinger 11-18-2016 05:18 PM

GoJET the real story.
 
The only thing I know about Gojet is I've been on a few of their jump seats and every time the crews were great, one time going above and beyond to get me on and home. One of the pilots on that flight was later in a promo video talking about how great Gojet is. That pilot was a great to talk to and very skilled, but the things said in that cockpit did not match what was said on the promo video. I might have just got him on a bad day, dunno.

qualified50 11-18-2016 05:58 PM

**** and ***** are extremely racist individuals. They also terminated a member of the U.S. Military while attending to his military obligation, you can read the court documents on how profane they behaved inclusive of the insulting language towards him. Also if you do not accept a FAR 117 extension or if you call in fatigue be prepared for disciplinary action as per the company memo from ****** in June 2017. Most recently the company started withholding wages earned in some cases in excess of $500 without any advance notification.

D1115 11-18-2016 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by qualified50 (Post 2246061)
*******are extremely racist individuals. They also terminated a member of the U.S. Military while attending to his military obligation, you can read the court documents on how profane they behaved inclusive of the insulting language towards him. Also if you do not accept a FAR 117 extension or if you call in fatigue be prepared for disciplinary action as per the company memo from ****in June 2017. Most recently the company started withholding wages earned in some cases in excess of $500 without any advance notification.

You a current Gojet pilot?

sidelinesam 11-18-2016 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by D1115 (Post 2245938)
Before you decide on GoJet PM me. It's true that some have made it out unscathed, but you are playing roulette with your career. Management and recruitment there are an absolute embarrassment to the profession. More details to come....

Post what you've got or move on. Did we REALLY need another new thread about that dump?

TalkTurkey 11-18-2016 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by qualified50 (Post 2246061)
******are extremely racist individuals. They also terminated a member of the U.S. Military while attending to his military obligation, you can read the court documents on how profane they behaved inclusive of the insulting language towards him. Also if you do not accept a FAR 117 extension or if you call in fatigue be prepared for disciplinary action as per the company memo from *****in June 2017. Most recently the company started withholding wages earned in some cases in excess of $500 without any advance notification.

And I thought the space time continuum was a myth. Welcome to the past.

TalkTurkey 11-18-2016 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by MrSkywest (Post 2246008)
I would not recommend talking to guys when are there as much as I would recommend talking to guys who are not there any longer. You will hear a lot of horror stories. There are a lot of good choices out there right now so I do not know why someone would consider this place, it is not a good choice.

I checked out the claims of a couple of guys about how great it is for them at Gojet and they didn't seem to make sense. One guy appears to be at a mainline carrier and not Gojet as his numbers were way off. He also didn't know the correct plane type that they fly. Seems someone is getting paid to recruit suckers off of this website.

Can we have that again in English please?

JesuitValen 11-19-2016 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by D1115 (Post 2245938)
Before you decide on GoJet PM me. It's true that some have made it out unscathed, but you are playing roulette with your career. Management and recruitment there are an absolute embarrassment to the profession. More details to come....

Any time sweetheart

D1115 11-19-2016 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by JesuitValen (Post 2246163)
Any time sweetheart

1. Offer a class and then yank it by telling a recruit that there has been a reduction in flying and then continue not to answer and questions. Only to find out classes are resuming and this is a bold faced lie.
2. Pilot applicant incurred great expenses to have someone manage his business and care for his children while he waited for classes to resume which was another lie.
3 Pilot applicant turned down 5 other carriers so he didn't have to commute
4. Pilot applicant has 0 busts, clean record.
5. Company has little to no communication...

That's just the tidbit... the applicant in question is currently looking at legal action against Gojet.

You wanna know more just ask or pm

chrisreedrules 11-19-2016 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by D1115 (Post 2246167)
1. Offer a class and then yank it by telling a recruit that there has been a reduction in flying and then continue not to answer and questions. Only to find out classes are resuming and this is a bold faced lie.
2. Pilot applicant incurred great expenses to have someone manage his business and care for his children while he waited for classes to resume which was another lie.
3 Pilot applicant turned down 5 other carriers so he didn't have to commute
4. Pilot applicant has 0 busts, clean record.
5. Company has little to no communication...

That's just the tidbit... the applicant in question is currently looking at legal action against Gojet.

You wanna know more just ask or pm

You can't say you weren't warned... There is literally a plethora of information about GoJet, the way they treat their employees, and their business practices on this website. If it were me, I would commute to another airline rather than live in base and work for GoJet.

D1115 11-19-2016 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2246227)
You can't say you weren't warned... There is literally a plethora of information about GoJet, the way they treat their employees, and their business practices on this website. If it were me, I would commute to another airline rather than live in base and work for GoJet.

Oh the regret is there. Wish piedmont had had a dtw or ORD bases upgrade is quick but commutes to those bases is two legs from where I live.

Five93H 11-19-2016 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by D1115 (Post 2246233)
Oh the regret is there. Wish piedmont had had a dtw or ORD bases upgrade is quick but commutes to those bases is two legs from where I live.

You've got close to a dozen options between DTW and ORD for airlines.

deltajuliet 11-19-2016 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by D1115 (Post 2246233)
Oh the regret is there. Wish piedmont had had a dtw or ORD bases upgrade is quick but commutes to those bases is two legs from where I live.

Yeah, if I'm understanding correctly based on this and past posts that you're near DTW and ORD, that gives you Envoy, Endeavor, SkyWest, ExpressJet, TSA, and I think Republic. Also, if you were about to go to class at Northwest, your time at the regionals would probably be short, anyway.

D1115 11-19-2016 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 2246250)
Yeah, if I'm understanding correctly based on this and past posts that you're near DTW and ORD, that gives you Envoy, Endeavor, SkyWest, ExpressJet, TSA, and I think Republic. Also, if you were about to go to class at Northwest, your time at the regionals would probably be short, anyway.

Want to go to SWA. Need the pic time. Only have 31hours turbine pic a320 before being displaced back to right seat. Upgrade will be at least 2 years anywhere but piedmont, commute air. Envoy upgrade will be a long time. I got caught in the post 911 no upgrades forever at regionals

As for short stay. I think I will need like 2 years min to get picked up again by a major again I was out of flying for almost 8 years.

Dhood84 11-19-2016 08:57 AM

Like I've said before....I must have gotten lucky. Got in got my type and ATP, did some time and moved on with no problem. New contract was implemented right after I left, but sounds like they're still having problems. Yes guys had pay docked last pay period without it being known. Company just decided to do it. YMMV.

DH

Five93H 11-19-2016 09:02 AM

Thing is, this the the G7 MO since day one. Some get lucky but nothing is a surprise anymore.

Hope it works for you.

G7 said they were reducing flying?

D1115 11-19-2016 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Five93H (Post 2246311)
Thing is, this the the G7 MO since day one. Some get lucky but nothing is a surprise anymore.

Hope it works for you.

G7 said they were reducing flying?

Yes that was their "reason" for canceling my class.

MrSkywest 11-20-2016 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by D1115 (Post 2246318)
Yes that was their "reason" for canceling my class.

They probably looked up up on Facebook and everything looked fine so they hired you. Later, they looked again at Facebook and saw that one of your Facebook friends was a union rep at some airline, or was someone they didn't like, or something stupid like that.

Back in 08 they hired a whole class of FSs from a company that had just shutdown. Then they found out the FAs had been unionized at the former airline. So they "cancelled" the entire class and then hired a new class.

The main reason they didn't hire you is obvious to almost everyone on this website but you are obviously too obtuse to look in the mirror yourself. First, you are trying to go to the worst airline out there, they have to conclude there is something wrong you are not telling them. Second, they have to believe you did not do your research or you would not be wanting to go there. Third, an alternative to two, you did your research and know what gojet is like and still want to go there. Why would they want someone with such poor judgment? They want guys with problems in their pasts that they know about. People who will stay and do what they are told because they have no other choice.

Ask yourself, would you hire a guy who must have a hidden past, who does not prepare enough to research the company, one who is willing to go the the bottom of the barrel for no (known) reason? The motto for Gojet should be, "When you are out of all good choices, we will be there for you!"

You need to go out today and get a nice Christmas present for whoever blocked you at Gojet, you should consider that person to be your best friend.

You go to get onto an airplane and they deny you boarding for no good reason The plane is half full and they need paying customers like you. The plane crashes and everyone is killed. Instead of being relieved you are angry! So what do you want to do, you want to sue them for denying you boarding when you had a ticket.

4myfamily 11-25-2016 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by MrSkywest (Post 2246811)
They probably looked up up on Facebook and everything looked fine so they hired you. Later, they looked again at Facebook and saw that one of your Facebook friends was a union rep at some airline, or was someone they didn't like, or something stupid like that.

Back in 08 they hired a whole class of FSs from a company that had just shutdown. Then they found out the FAs had been unionized at the former airline. So they "cancelled" the entire class and then hired a new class.

The main reason they didn't hire you is obvious to almost everyone on this website but you are obviously too obtuse to look in the mirror yourself. First, you are trying to go to the worst airline out there, they have to conclude there is something wrong you are not telling them. Second, they have to believe you did not do your research or you would not be wanting to go there. Third, an alternative to two, you did your research and know what gojet is like and still want to go there. Why would they want someone with such poor judgment? They want guys with problems in their pasts that they know about. People who will stay and do what they are told because they have no other choice.

Ask yourself, would you hire a guy who must have a hidden past, who does not prepare enough to research the company, one who is willing to go the the bottom of the barrel for no (known) reason? The motto for Gojet should be, "When you are out of all good choices, we will be there for you!"

You need to go out today and get a nice Christmas present for whoever blocked you at Gojet, you should consider that person to be your best friend.

You go to get onto an airplane and they deny you boarding for no good reason The plane is half full and they need paying customers like you. The plane crashes and everyone is killed. Instead of being relieved you are angry! So what do you want to do, you want to sue them for denying you boarding when you had a ticket.

I bet you are a joy to fly with...

LivnthedrM 11-29-2016 06:25 AM

There has to be a GoJet success story besides the point of no return that is portrayed on here.
Is there anyone here that benfited from the GoJet DEC and moved on to LCC or Big 3?

SevereClear1 11-29-2016 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by LivnthedrM (Post 2251955)
There has to be a GoJet success story besides the point of no return that is portrayed on here.
Is there anyone here that benfited from the GoJet DEC and moved on to LCC or Big 3?

I know at least one at Delta. a few at Jetblue and a few at Atlas... all DEC....

gojo 11-29-2016 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by LivnthedrM (Post 2251955)
There has to be a GoJet success story besides the point of no return that is portrayed on here.
Is there anyone here that benfited from the GoJet DEC and moved on to LCC or Big 3?

There are here and there. This thread is 3 pages long and I'm pretty sure there are other GoJet threads. Ya just gotta look. The thing is with so many negative posts I would tend to put some weight on them.

977flyer 11-29-2016 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by LivnthedrM (Post 2251955)
There has to be a GoJet success story besides the point of no return that is portrayed on here.
Is there anyone here that benfited from the GoJet DEC and moved on to LCC or Big 3?

Losing check Airmen to Delta, United, and other LCC's faster then they can be trained. Training department is strained right now.

theycallmered 11-29-2016 09:58 AM

I know of quite a few FOs going to LCCs, myself included. GoJet is not a blackhole and almost everyone is trying to get out.

bernouli 12-05-2016 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by LivnthedrM (Post 2251955)
There has to be a GoJet success story besides the point of no return that is portrayed on here.
Is there anyone here that benfited from the GoJet DEC and moved on to LCC or Big 3?

There are a lot of them. DEC or not, people have moved on with terrific success. AA, UAL, DAL, SWA, FedEx, Atlas, JetBlu, Spirit, Virgin <--- those are the ones that come to my mind. I'm sure there are more.

HighFlight 12-05-2016 03:23 PM

Three words: Endeavor.


Originally Posted by D1115 (Post 2246258)
Want to go to SWA. Need the pic time. Only have 31hours turbine pic a320 before being displaced back to right seat. Upgrade will be at least 2 years anywhere but piedmont, commute air. Envoy upgrade will be a long time. I got caught in the post 911 no upgrades forever at regionals

As for short stay. I think I will need like 2 years min to get picked up again by a major again I was out of flying for almost 8 years.


D1115 12-19-2016 10:33 AM

Hacked.
 
Recently discovered that my account here on airline pilot forums had been compromised. I apologize for any statements or comments made that have not come directly from me.

Thank you.

D1115 12-19-2016 10:33 AM

hacked
 
Recently discovered that my account here on airline pilot forums had been compromised. I apologize for any statements or comments made that have not come directly from me.

Thank you.

MrSkywest 12-19-2016 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by D1115 (Post 2265683)
Recently discovered that my account here on airline pilot forums had been compromised. I apologize for any statements or comments made that have not come directly from me.

Thank you.

Often people will use a public computer, such as in ops, and forget to log out. People may intentionally make a comment using the other person's sign-in or may start reading and when making a comment forget that he was not the person who signed in. My buddy has taken my computer and made some comments. He thinks he's funny. No matter what, it is all one person's opinion or beliefs. Facts can be misstated, misunderstood or even wrong. Everyone should use what is on here as things to consider and should be investigated. Also, people may be responding to given facts A, B, and C and given those his opinion is X. If he is given facts B,C, and D instead he may have a different opinion.

People also need to throw in some common sense. Why would an airline that is not growing, be hiring street captains? When I interviewed at Skywest there were 7 interviewing and 3 were at American Eagle. That said a lot about Eagle. There is one airline who has just over 1000 pilots but which has hired over 1000 pilots this year. Isn't that 100% turnover? Where are they coming from and why are they coming? Where are they going and why are they leaving so quickly? Contact people who are no longer at an airline if you want a better chance of getting the truth. Beware Stockholm Sydrome response where someone is happy to have gotten out and is relieved. Reputation would be number one to me in choosing a good company to work for. I bet is somebody asked who the worst 2 regional jet airlines in the US are, that 90% of the people would have the same response.

SevereClear1 12-20-2016 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by MrSkywest (Post 2265902)
There is one airline who has just over 1000 pilots but which has hired over 1000 pilots this year. Isn't that 100% turnover? Where are they coming from and why are they coming? Where are they going and why are they leaving so quickly? Contact people who are no longer at an airline if you want a better chance of getting the truth. Beware Stockholm Sydrome response where someone is happy to have gotten out and is relieved. Reputation would be number one to me in choosing a good company to work for. I bet is somebody asked who the worst 2 regional jet airlines in the US are, that 90% of the people would have the same response.

wait... are you comparing G7 to mesa?

JesuitValen 12-20-2016 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by D1115 (Post 2265683)
Recently discovered that my account here on airline pilot forums had been compromised. I apologize for any statements or comments made that have not come directly from me.

Thank you.

Lol. Hackerman at it again?

Someone got a talking to from management. Deny deny deny.

Da40Pilot 12-23-2016 09:28 PM


3. Pilot applicant turned down 5 other carriers so he didn't have to commute.
You turned down 5 other offers so you could fly for GoJets. You left me speechless.

Dude Abides 12-24-2016 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by D1115 (Post 2265683)
Recently discovered that my account here on airline pilot forums had been compromised. I apologize for any statements or comments made that have not come directly from me.

Thank you.

Yea, me too. I never said any of it. 😉

JesuitValen 12-24-2016 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 2268642)
You turned down 5 other offers so you could fly for GoJets. You left me speechless.

Other offers were from Mesa as an FA, home depot in equipment rental, and three waiter jobs.

Flysafeeveryone 12-25-2016 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by SevereClear1 (Post 2251984)
I know at least one at Delta. a few at Jetblue and a few at Atlas... all DEC....

If I were in the hiring department at a major airline I would not discriminate against someone just because they came from Gojet. I would look closely as to why they went there though.

I would also not refuse to allow someone from the Titanic onto my lifeboat. I would not block a door preventing someone from leaving a burning building. And I would not blame a rape victim for the actions of the rapist.

We all know good people whose careers were destroyed by Gojet.

"The Real Story", it is the bottom of the bottom. Mesa beats Gojet. Their contract is worthless. The contract says you get 4 hours min credit per day but the small print says as long as the first day starts before noon and the last day ends after 5 pm. Otherwise the guarantee on a 4 day trip is 8 hours.

Don't expect to be able to change your schedule, what you get is what you have to fly.

If you fly 80 hours at Gojet you might get 120 hours of credit for the same flying at Skywest. If you are at Envoy or Endeavor you get the 20k bonus while at Gojet you get nothing.

Get the contract, read the contract. Look for the take-aways. Talk to Envoy, Endeavor, PSA, and Skywest people.

Gojet may hire you as a Captain and pay you captain pay but then they might have you fly in the right seat. You would do better at Envoy or Endeavor. Stick to a quality outfit and you will be glad you did.

JetRage 12-25-2016 11:50 PM

Well this horse has been beaten to absolute death. Yes, G7 is terrible company. I've been gone since early fall and I'm still occasionally in shock by some of the things I saw when I was working there.

Go ahead though. Life is short. If people are still going there despite all the tremendous negatives why stop them? Some people have been able to get out unscathed. I wasn't able to.

Personally I'm surprised an operation of that low caliber is allowed to operate in a first world country. But what do I know? I'm just a humble pilot.

Go ahead. See it for yourself. We're all gluttons for punishment.

Flysafeeveryone 12-27-2016 12:42 AM

For some reason pilots think there is no price to be paid going to a bottom feeder as a captain. Why do they think an airline with no growth needs captains?

Remember to figure in the cost of an airline ticket home after your last trip because they cut off your jumpseat before the end. They like to get in that final FU.

It will not be getting any better. Don't believe the guy who gets on here and tells you that it might have been that way a couple of years ago but not any more. It still sucks.


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