OOfff

Here’s a known, actual dangerous drug (with a dramatically lower LD50 than cannabis) dressed as candy, and parents simply keep it away from kids:

Trader Joe's Dark Chocolate Covered Espresso Beans 14 oz. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009RS7VIK..._IQNqBbXHXV0VA

rickair7777

Haha, my kid got hold of some of those at about age 2. She was still up watching PBS at 0200 when I finally went to bed. A bit cranky the next day though.

I didn't know it was dangerous though.

NeverHome

Sooooo dangerous. I’ve finally gone clean. Took a few years. Some days I would wake up, and first thing I would do was reach for my beans. Relationships destroyed. It was terrible.

I got my beans from the Ben and Jerry’s in EWR C concourse. So delicious, so energizing, so expensive (seriously WTF). Hmmmm now that I think of it, I may go get some

SaintNick

nice thread revival.

JamesNoBrakes

In the eyes of the DOT, not yet it isn't.

rickair7777

Correct. CBD can make you pop positive, and there's no way to differentiate between CBD and more traditional MJ use. Either way, you're done.

As was pointed out above some nations take an extreme view of illegal drugs. Selling a dime bag will get you a hollow point in the back of the head in some places, so I imagine a pilot who popped would be looking at some very serious time in the local Hanoi Hilton.

A Squared

It is, but it isn't.

Chemically, yes, CBD is not the same thing. Pharmaceutically pure CBD contains no THC, has no psychoactive properties and would not cause a positive on a DOT test.

Sounds good, right? Yeah, not so fast. a couple of problems:

1) According to the Federal Government CBD is a Schedule 1 drug, so in the eyes of the federal government, CBD is in the same category as Heroin and LSD,

2) I said Phamaceutically pure CBD wouldn't cause a positive on a DOT test. Thing is, it's not all pharmacutically pure. Even though you can go in stores and openly buy CBD in some states, there are no controls on the quality of the extraction. You're trusting that whomever is producing the CBD you're taking is producing a a high quality extract that contains no THC. That's not always a safe bet. An AME in my local area posted on social media that he had patients (at least one, it might have been 2, no names or personal details so HIPPA patient confidentiality wasn't violated) who had tested positive for THC after taking CBD which they believed was safe.

I'm willing to consider that CBD may have some therapeutic benefits, and if folks are getting positive results from CBD, more power to them. I damn sure wouldn't knowingly take them myself, as long as my career is dependent on passing a DOT screening test.

A Squared

Not *quite* correct, I don't think. As I understand it. CBD will *not* cause a positive for THC on a DOT screening test, *BUT* CBD products have no quality control, and the CBD product you buy may contain THC which of course *will* cause a positive on a DOT test.

That part is true.

rickair7777

This is correct, and is what I meant by "CBD can make you pop positive".

My understanding is some CBD is intentionally left with THC, to enhance the end-user experience (and hopefully encourage repeat customers).

herewego

Would any of you guys that think the FAA should allow us to smoke pot on our off time be willing to go get a vasectomy from a Dr that lit up on his break between surgeries?