Green New Deal! (Air Travel Unnecessary)
#531
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Position: guppy CA
Posts: 5,160
Wait, I though ordering a black Russian was okay, because it will show my openmindeness.
Alright back to Jack Black. Oops, uhh okay, beer for me.A nice pale ale, no wait! I want something dark. No, still racist. How about tequila? Oops, cultural appropriation! Dammit!
Just water.
Alright back to Jack Black. Oops, uhh okay, beer for me.A nice pale ale, no wait! I want something dark. No, still racist. How about tequila? Oops, cultural appropriation! Dammit!
Just water.
Like white sneakers. https://www.rt.com/sport/451004-adid...history-month/
And of course Katy Perry shoes are also racist. https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...ackface-design
Then there's the racist Gucci sweater. (It should have been removed anyway for being so gaudy) https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...causes-n971261
But D female Congresscritters can dress in all white for the State of the Union looking like they just came from a KKK meeting and no one calls them out for that.
#533
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Narrow/Left Wide/Right
Posts: 3,655
I love the way the word "believe" is being adopted by the left in regards to climate change.
Is it a religion that requires faith?
Almost everyone understands science, but prescribing if/how humans would effectively alter a future climate is really what's up for debate.
Ever been to Jakarta? City of over 10million that probably produces more pollution than 1/4 of the US. You can't see the sun by 9am each day (despite nary a cloud in the sky due to the smog). Buying everyone of the residents a new muffler for their scooter would clean up the global air quality significantly more than many of the pie-in-the-sky ideas that get floated in the US.
Dismantling the US economy in a 5/10 year plan will not help save the earth, it will lead to millions/billions of people suffering now.
There are sensible things that can be done, but the switch from capitalism to socialism/communism is not the answer.
Burning, looking for, and using fossil fuels has a real cost to the environment, and someday there will be a dwindling supply anyway. Nobody thinks that we shouldn't transition to alternative sources of energy, but honestly taking nuclear off the table makes going completely green nearly impossible.
IMO, Ross Perot was right back in 1992 when he ran for president that we should slowly, incrementally raise the gas/oil tax in a way that would allow for innovation in other forms of energy with a backstop of price stability, because now whenever other options get going, the price of oil drops to $50 a barrel and cuts everything off at the knees.
Alas in our politics, there is very little support for common sense approach. The Dems seem hell bent on turning global warming/climate change into an opportunity to finally end capitalism in the US, basically confirming what the Repubs have long suspected.
Meanwhile, national debt just surpassed $22Trillion, double from less than 10yrs ago. Some fear unless we actually tackle that, global warming will take care of itself as the US/world economy takes a global dump.
But wait on that story.... I think I just saw a pair of Katy Perry shoes that look like blackface..... have those removed, outrage, outrage.....
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/11/enter...oes/index.html
Is it a religion that requires faith?
Almost everyone understands science, but prescribing if/how humans would effectively alter a future climate is really what's up for debate.
Ever been to Jakarta? City of over 10million that probably produces more pollution than 1/4 of the US. You can't see the sun by 9am each day (despite nary a cloud in the sky due to the smog). Buying everyone of the residents a new muffler for their scooter would clean up the global air quality significantly more than many of the pie-in-the-sky ideas that get floated in the US.
Dismantling the US economy in a 5/10 year plan will not help save the earth, it will lead to millions/billions of people suffering now.
There are sensible things that can be done, but the switch from capitalism to socialism/communism is not the answer.
Burning, looking for, and using fossil fuels has a real cost to the environment, and someday there will be a dwindling supply anyway. Nobody thinks that we shouldn't transition to alternative sources of energy, but honestly taking nuclear off the table makes going completely green nearly impossible.
IMO, Ross Perot was right back in 1992 when he ran for president that we should slowly, incrementally raise the gas/oil tax in a way that would allow for innovation in other forms of energy with a backstop of price stability, because now whenever other options get going, the price of oil drops to $50 a barrel and cuts everything off at the knees.
Alas in our politics, there is very little support for common sense approach. The Dems seem hell bent on turning global warming/climate change into an opportunity to finally end capitalism in the US, basically confirming what the Repubs have long suspected.
Meanwhile, national debt just surpassed $22Trillion, double from less than 10yrs ago. Some fear unless we actually tackle that, global warming will take care of itself as the US/world economy takes a global dump.
But wait on that story.... I think I just saw a pair of Katy Perry shoes that look like blackface..... have those removed, outrage, outrage.....
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/11/enter...oes/index.html
#534
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 553
Sorry, should have said that the pentagon and Exxon mobile recognize that man made climate change is a scientificly proven reality.
Yes, tax carbon.
Paris accord works toward lowering emissions globally, Jakarta included.
Yes, tax carbon.
Paris accord works toward lowering emissions globally, Jakarta included.
#535
Welcome to the brave new PC world where most things are racist.
Like white sneakers. https://www.rt.com/sport/451004-adid...history-month/
And of course Katy Perry shoes are also racist. https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...ackface-design
Then there's the racist Gucci sweater. (It should have been removed anyway for being so gaudy) https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...causes-n971261
But D female Congresscritters can dress in all white for the State of the Union looking like they just came from a KKK meeting and no one calls them out for that.
Like white sneakers. https://www.rt.com/sport/451004-adid...history-month/
And of course Katy Perry shoes are also racist. https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...ackface-design
Then there's the racist Gucci sweater. (It should have been removed anyway for being so gaudy) https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...causes-n971261
But D female Congresscritters can dress in all white for the State of the Union looking like they just came from a KKK meeting and no one calls them out for that.
But since the derailment may have just begun I’ll say that I may have worn the Katy Perry shoes if it weren’t for the blue eyes. That would look a little silly. Other than that they’re kinda cute.
Last edited by jDSTJD; 02-14-2019 at 07:08 AM.
#536
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Joined APC: Jun 2018
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I love the way the word "believe" is being adopted by the left in regards to climate change.
Is it a religion that requires faith?
Almost everyone understands science, but prescribing if/how humans would effectively alter a future climate is really what's up for debate.
Ever been to Jakarta? City of over 10million that probably produces more pollution than 1/4 of the US. You can't see the sun by 9am each day (despite nary a cloud in the sky due to the smog). Buying everyone of the residents a new muffler for their scooter would clean up the global air quality significantly more than many of the pie-in-the-sky ideas that get floated in the US.
Dismantling the US economy in a 5/10 year plan will not help save the earth, it will lead to millions/billions of people suffering now.
There are sensible things that can be done, but the switch from capitalism to socialism/communism is not the answer.
Burning, looking for, and using fossil fuels has a real cost to the environment, and someday there will be a dwindling supply anyway. Nobody thinks that we shouldn't transition to alternative sources of energy, but honestly taking nuclear off the table makes going completely green nearly impossible.
IMO, Ross Perot was right back in 1992 when he ran for president that we should slowly, incrementally raise the gas/oil tax in a way that would allow for innovation in other forms of energy with a backstop of price stability, because now whenever other options get going, the price of oil drops to $50 a barrel and cuts everything off at the knees.
Alas in our politics, there is very little support for common sense approach. The Dems seem hell bent on turning global warming/climate change into an opportunity to finally end capitalism in the US, basically confirming what the Repubs have long suspected.
Meanwhile, national debt just surpassed $22Trillion, double from less than 10yrs ago. Some fear unless we actually tackle that, global warming will take care of itself as the US/world economy takes a global dump.
But wait on that story.... I think I just saw a pair of Katy Perry shoes that look like blackface..... have those removed, outrage, outrage.....
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/11/enter...oes/index.html
Is it a religion that requires faith?
Almost everyone understands science, but prescribing if/how humans would effectively alter a future climate is really what's up for debate.
Ever been to Jakarta? City of over 10million that probably produces more pollution than 1/4 of the US. You can't see the sun by 9am each day (despite nary a cloud in the sky due to the smog). Buying everyone of the residents a new muffler for their scooter would clean up the global air quality significantly more than many of the pie-in-the-sky ideas that get floated in the US.
Dismantling the US economy in a 5/10 year plan will not help save the earth, it will lead to millions/billions of people suffering now.
There are sensible things that can be done, but the switch from capitalism to socialism/communism is not the answer.
Burning, looking for, and using fossil fuels has a real cost to the environment, and someday there will be a dwindling supply anyway. Nobody thinks that we shouldn't transition to alternative sources of energy, but honestly taking nuclear off the table makes going completely green nearly impossible.
IMO, Ross Perot was right back in 1992 when he ran for president that we should slowly, incrementally raise the gas/oil tax in a way that would allow for innovation in other forms of energy with a backstop of price stability, because now whenever other options get going, the price of oil drops to $50 a barrel and cuts everything off at the knees.
Alas in our politics, there is very little support for common sense approach. The Dems seem hell bent on turning global warming/climate change into an opportunity to finally end capitalism in the US, basically confirming what the Repubs have long suspected.
Meanwhile, national debt just surpassed $22Trillion, double from less than 10yrs ago. Some fear unless we actually tackle that, global warming will take care of itself as the US/world economy takes a global dump.
But wait on that story.... I think I just saw a pair of Katy Perry shoes that look like blackface..... have those removed, outrage, outrage.....
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/11/enter...oes/index.html
Of course, the suburbs exist mainly due to low gasoline prices and our highway system.
#537
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Position: guppy CA
Posts: 5,160
The scientific consensus at one time was that the sun revolved around the earth. For reference: https://www.history.com/this-day-in-...cted-of-heresy
This is nowhere close to settled science. Does CO2 retain heat? Yes. What is man's effect on the earth's temperature? De minimus. And that's why all of the global warming models fail after a few years … they understate the effect that variability of solar output has on the earth's temperature and overstate by several orders of magnitude the effect that CO2 has on retaining heat. And I have yet to run across a decent study on the effect of the oceans on the planet's temperature. The oceans are a huge heat sink that help regulate the earth's temperature.
This is far more complex than stating that excess CO2 is the problem. It's not.
I've read so many predictions over the year how if this happens, it's game over. Yet we've exceeded multiple lines in the sand and things are still OK.
#538
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Posts: 1,785
https://climateandsecurity.files.wor...ate_to_dod.pdf
BRIEFING CLIMATE CHANGE
Pentagon Warns Bases Imperiled by Climate Change in Dire Report
By BLOOMBERG January 18, 2019
The U.S. Defense Department has issued a dire report on how climate change could affect the nation’s armed forces and security, warning that rising seas could inundate coastal bases and drought-fueled wildfires could endanger inland ones.
The 22-page assessment delivered to Congress on Thursday says about two-thirds of 79 mission-essential military installations in the U.S. that were reviewed are vulnerable to current or future flooding, with more than half vulnerable to current or future drought. About half also are at risk from wildfires, including the threat of mudslides and erosion from rains following the blazes.
“The effects of a changing climate are a national security issue with potential impacts to DOD missions, operational plans and installations,” Defense Department spokeswoman Heather Babb said in an email.
The report, which was mandated by Congress, describes widespread impacts, dispersed across the U.S., with more coastal flooding along the East coast and Hawaii.
U.S. military facilities are already encountering some of the effects, the Pentagon says, noting that Joint Base Langley-Eustis in Virginia has experienced 14 inches of sea level rise since 1930. And Navy Base Coronado in California already experiences flooding during tropical storm events.
In the Washington area, several Defense Department sites — including Joint Base Andrews, home of Air Force One — are experiencing drought conditions that have been severe the past 16 years, the report says. Those conditions can lead to ruptured utility lines and cracked roads, the Pentagon warns, as moisture disappears from soil.
The Defense Department stresses in its report that it is working with nations around the world “to understand and plan for future potential mission impacts” from climate change, describing it as “a global issue.”
Under the Obama administration, the effects on climate on the nation’s military was a top initiative, but the Trump administration has taken a different tack. In a reversal, climate change was omitted in 2017 as a threat from the National Security Strategy, a list a threats facing the nation.
“Given future global energy demand, much of the developing world will require fossil fuels, as well as other forms of energy, to power their economies and lift their people out of poverty,” the 2017 strategy said. “U.S. leadership is indispensable to countering an anti-growth energy agenda.”
The Obama administration had warned climate change was an “urgent and growing threat to our national security.”
#539
Seattle and King County are spending about $100K annually per homeless to attract more homeless. If you aren't watching every minute you'll be stepping on poop and/or used needles downtown, and the poop isn't dog poop. The city council has proposed public funded shooting galleries so the homeless can safely use their heroin.
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na...nap-story.html
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#540
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Hey I totally agree with some of what you say but those numbers are so far out of the ball park they aren't even remotely realistic. I truly don't believe AOC wants us to be like Venezuela either.
Look at Canada as an example. Americans think Canadians are socialists and they do have a more progressive tax structure. With one side of my family Canadian citizens, aside from the cold knowing what I know I would love to move there. Things are so much better. I feel more free in Canada walking around parliament then I do in Washington DC. The US has gone off the rails, both sides. And the general public has lost all common sense, the PC coarse we are on now is a train wreck.
Look at Canada as an example. Americans think Canadians are socialists and they do have a more progressive tax structure. With one side of my family Canadian citizens, aside from the cold knowing what I know I would love to move there. Things are so much better. I feel more free in Canada walking around parliament then I do in Washington DC. The US has gone off the rails, both sides. And the general public has lost all common sense, the PC coarse we are on now is a train wreck.
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