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cactusmike 11-28-2019 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 2928866)
also when the pilot is hand flying, it doubles the workload for the PNF. This can be an issue when tired/in busy airspace/etc. Use your good judgement. Don't hand fly the last 100 miles into Hong Kong after a 12 hour flight just to prove you can.

Hand flew a 75 a couple of years ago from MCO to MIA. F/O and I had been joking around about the lack of hand flying we had seen with other crews we had flown with. We had also flown together before and we both liked to turn off the autopilot for approaches.

He was totally on board with it, although the RJ jumpseater was totally confused.

I flew into Hong Kong last week. Turned off the a/p on the downwind vector to 7L. I know the automation can do the job, I need to make sure I can as well. No one had an issue with me doing that.

flensr 11-29-2019 07:28 PM

I routinely turn off the AP in lefthand traffic to westbound landings at Vegas... Overshooting winds almost always result in a gross overshoot if you try to let the AP make the turn to final, both in the A320 and 737. North of the extended centerline is where all the canyon tours fly, so that's not a good place to be and a bad AP turn-in is no excuse.

Aurora8 11-29-2019 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 2927582)
I did appreciate the ZTL controller who gave us "fly Heading 270, direct Little Rock VOR when able."

Years ago ('91?) I was flying into Anchorage at some ungodly hour of the night. There wasn't much chatter on the radio. Center asked an aircraft (Delta 757?) on freq for the INS winds and got them, then asked the same of a United 727 to which the pilot responded, "In this old pile of junk? All we've got is an ADF and a flashlight." LOL!

badflaps 11-30-2019 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by Aurora8 (Post 2931682)
Years ago ('91?) I was flying into Anchorage at some ungodly hour of the night. There wasn't much chatter on the radio. Center asked an aircraft (Delta 757?) on freq for the INS winds and got them, then asked the same of a United 727 to which the pilot responded, "In this old pile of junk? All we've got is an ADF and a flashlight." LOL!

A gazillion years ago DAL leased DC-10's. We would forever be given coordinates to fly. Had to inform them we were the small hubcap and heater delete model.

climb 11-30-2019 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by flensr (Post 2931666)
I routinely turn off the AP in lefthand traffic to westbound landings at Vegas... Overshooting winds almost always result in a gross overshoot if you try to let the AP make the turn to final, both in the A320 and 737. North of the extended centerline is where all the canyon tours fly, so that's not a good place to be and a bad AP turn-in is no excuse.


NAV it till your on the loc then hook it up works great in strong winds.

dmeg13021 12-02-2019 05:06 AM

Or, you know, be a pilot.

Chunk 12-03-2019 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by herewego (Post 2928890)
for fear of offending moderators I'll just recommend looking up floating in the urban dictionary.
If you're from Utah, you won't need to look it up.

I thought that was “soaking”

herewego 12-03-2019 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by Chunk (Post 2932921)
I thought that was “soaking”

Not an expert, but I understand the difference to be that floating is on a water bed. That way if one of your friends just happens to sit on the bed causing a little motion that is not your doing, you can still claim to be upholding the law of chastity. Kind of a "definition of is-is"
So the motions of an airplane in flight during floating would meet the same basic criteria.

symbian simian 12-03-2019 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by herewego (Post 2928890)
for fear of offending moderators I'll just recommend looking up floating in the urban dictionary.
If you're from Utah, you won't need to look it up.

I generally try to refrain from going there on here, but WTH:
Any time you need to justify your behavior by referring to the explicit definition you probably know better. If you need a “but we didn’t really move” you might as well “inhale” (when related to 420 in college) or “is” (when related to cigars in the office).

Chunk 12-03-2019 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by herewego (Post 2932952)
Not an expert, but I understand the difference to be that floating is on a water bed. That way if one of your friends just happens to sit on the bed causing a little motion that is not your doing, you can still claim to be upholding the law of chastity. Kind of a "definition of is-is"
So the motions of an airplane in flight during floating would meet the same basic criteria.

Varsity level is driving from Provo (let’s be honest...it’s always Provo) to Vegas. Get married, do the dirty, then seek an annulment. What honor code violation? Do get me started on the ‘p**phole loophole’

Utah, man....strange place


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