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LNL76 01-26-2021 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3186870)
Times are a changing. I remember “those days” and how innocent the request was and I was always accommodating to help.

Today, not a chance. Have hotel security check for you. Zero chance I set foot in a room with just a member of the opposite sex, plausible deniability. And before LNL comes on here saying “I’m sure you’re nothing special,” it has nothing to do with that and everything to do with the time we live in. And in 2021, escorting a coworker into her room is as risky as innocently calling a FA “dear” or “sweetheart”.

Cancel culture is too real

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Haha! I always appreciated one of the guys standing outside the door until I gave the "all clear.". I also don't mind being called dear or sweetheart. Guess I'm a dinosaur!

herewego 01-27-2021 09:50 AM

There's a difference between standing outside the door, in the hallway, in view of the hotel Cameras, while the female goes inside the room to do a sweep then when she gives the all he clear walks away to his own room, than the male going into the room with the female outside of the view of the hotel cameras where the #metoo can occur.

And that's a "hashtag- me too", not a "pound me too". one is an after action or even a fake after action report, while the other is a request.

CincoDeMayo 01-27-2021 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by herewego (Post 3187121)
There's a difference between standing outside the door, in the hallway, in view of the hotel Cameras, while the female goes inside the room to do a sweep then when she gives the all he clear walks away to his own room, than the male going into the room with the female outside of the view of the hotel cameras where the #metoo can occur.

And that's a "hashtag- me too", not a "pound me too". one is an after action or even a fake after action report, while the other is a request.

What percentage of hotels have security cameras on every floor, monitoring every room entry? Maybe ill see a camera in the elevator lobby of each floor, or in the elevator, seems rare to ever see one picking up footage in the halls.

But hey, maybe you will get lucky and be on the camera of you and the FA on the elevator and then leaving on the same floor, walking together....see what im saying. Its guilty until proven innocent in today's time. But if you are someone (not necessarily speaking of you) that thinks they should be doing "room sweeps" as a pilot, at the hotel, none of this will sound any warning alarms anyways. Some pilots will always leave the flight deck to confront a passenger, no matter of the time; and some pilots still think room security sweeps are in the operations manual for their job.

And lets be honest. 99% of the time, the FAs run to the sign in book, see what rooms have microwaves, debate the shuttle time, grab the keys and are gone...leaving both pilots to take their turn signing in.

Again, not directing this to you. Just my 2 cents on the notion that a camera will absolve someone from doubt

Bluetruth 02-05-2021 09:47 AM

Its gone 180 from the olden days where the Pilots acted like the head of the family and took charge in the cabin and at the hotel.

Now there is a alarmingly high number of instances of the Pilots leaving the plane mid deplaning and rushing the hotel van or waiting ground transportation, leaving young female FAs to wait alone very late at night at some desolate airport after deplaning is over.

rickair7777 02-05-2021 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Bluetruth (Post 3191023)
Its gone 180 from the olden days where the Pilots acted like the head of the family and took charge in the cabin and at the hotel.

Now there is a alarmingly high number of instances of the Pilots leaving the plane mid deplaning and rushing the hotel van or waiting ground transportation, leaving young female FAs to wait alone very late at night at some desolate airport after deplaning is over.

Not that simple anymore.

At a regional they should probably stick together. But at many majors they're going to different hotels, with different outbound show times. If I'm on a 10-hour overnight I'm probably not waiting for the FA's if they're staying for 18.

CincoDeMayo 02-05-2021 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Bluetruth (Post 3191023)
Its gone 180 from the olden days where the Pilots acted like the head of the family and took charge in the cabin and at the hotel.

Now there is a alarmingly high number of instances of the Pilots leaving the plane mid deplaning and rushing the hotel van or waiting ground transportation, leaving young female FAs to wait alone very late at night at some desolate airport after deplaning is over.

“Alarmingly high?”

Serious?

Question, do you put your hat and blazer on when going to the back to confront an unruly passenger or just the hat?

Bluetruth 02-05-2021 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3191064)
Not that simple anymore.

At a regional they should probably stick together. But at many majors they're going to different hotels, with different outbound show times. If I'm on a 10-hour overnight I'm probably not waiting for the FA's if they're staying for 18.

So instead of waiting for them you'd take the van and let a couple 20 y/o girls wait curbside somewhere like HPN in the middle of the night? All so you can get to the hotel 10 mins sooner than otherwise?

This is the coarsening of society.

Bluetruth 02-05-2021 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3191084)
“Alarmingly high?”

Serious?

Question, do you put your hat and blazer on when going to the back to confront an unruly passenger or just the hat?

And a immaculately trimmed walrus mustache, always.

123494 02-05-2021 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Bluetruth (Post 3191023)
Its gone 180 from the olden days where the Pilots acted like the head of the family and took charge in the cabin and at the hotel.

Now there is a alarmingly high number of instances of the Pilots leaving the plane mid deplaning and rushing the hotel van or waiting ground transportation, leaving young female FAs to wait alone very late at night at some desolate airport after deplaning is over.

The times are a changing, old man. Ironically, the same young FAs you’re looking out for are largely the reason why male employees are so nervous to be put it a “my word vs. their word” scenario.

CincoDeMayo 02-05-2021 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Bluetruth (Post 3191085)
So instead of waiting for them you'd take the van and let a couple 20 y/o girls wait curbside somewhere like HPN in the middle of the night? All so you can get to the hotel 10 mins sooner than otherwise?

This is the coarsening of society.

Haha...what airline are you describing? Helpless 20 year old girls, HPN?, middle of the night...pilots at the same hotel....what are you talking about man?

FAs only care about pilots once we land if it means we "hold the van" for them, thats it...and I get to reply most of the time "heading downtown, see you later"


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