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Old 11-05-2022, 09:49 AM
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AMSTERDAM, Nov 5 (Reuters) - More than 100 environmental activists wearing white suits stormed into an area where private jets are kept at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport on Saturday and stopped several aircraft from departing by sitting in front of their wheels.

The protest was part of a day of demonstrations in and around the airport organised by environmental groups Greenpeace and Extinction Rebellion to protest over greenhouse gas emissions and other pollution caused by the airport and aviation industry."We want fewer flights, more trains and a ban on unnecessary short-haul flights and private jets," said Greenpeace Netherlands campaign leader Dewi Zloch.

The environmental group says Schiphol is the largest source of carbon dioxide emissions in the Netherlands, emitting 12 billion kilograms annually



Hundreds of other demonstrators in and around the airport's main hall carried signs saying "Restrict Aviation" and "More Trains".

Responding to the protest, Schiphol said it aims to become an emissions-free airport by 2030 and supports targets for the aviation industry to reach net zero emissions by 2050.

Military police tasked with airport security said in a statement they had "made a number of detentions of persons who were on airport property without being allowed
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Old 11-05-2022, 10:50 AM
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Notice these things only happen in the EU.

I actually am glad they are doing this because it makes their movement that much more hated and comical.
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Being a "climate change activist" = how to show you have no critical thinking skills
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Like wokeism, it has all the makings of a cult. Self-flagellation, penitence, public shaming, tearing down old monuments and artwork to make room for the new.

People have always needed some sort of religion.

Welcome to the new religions.
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Old 11-08-2022, 06:51 AM
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EU can indulge themselves with this a lot more...

As children of the nanny State everything is taken care of, not as worried about economic ramifications.

Also trains... they can reasonably do most domestic travel by rail without terrible inconvenience. Much shorter distances and vastly more infrastructure.
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Being a "climate change activist" = how to show you have no critical thinking skills
…..because you’re a climatologist, or even a scientist?
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…..because you’re a climatologist, or even a scientist?
Stop enabling this hysteria.
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…..because you’re a climatologist, or even a scientist?
No, but one doesn't have to be in order to understand that there is no proof that human activity is having an effect on the climate.
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
No, but one doesn't have to be in order to understand that there is no proof that human activity is having an effect on the climate.
Your reply in itself is a logical fallacy. After you stew on that for a while, why don’t you search for organizations that concur with human activity’s effect on climate? They happens to be science based and of accredited higher education. Then do a search on organizations that say otherwise. They happen to be economic, political and right wing news based organizations. Be sure and do your search sans confirmation bias. I’ll wait.
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No, but one doesn't have to be in order to understand that there is no proof that human activity is having an effect on the climate.
At what point is presentation of physical laws (thermodynamics), experimental demonstration of phenomena (energy in certain wavelengths being trapped by specified molecules such as CO2, H2O, etc) and measurements of change in heat energy capture of the planet while also calculating how much these atmospheric molecules have increased directly due to human activity, considered to be approaching proof?

1.If more energy is poured into a body than is allowed to escape, then the temperature of the body must rise to achieve equilibrium.
2. Certain gas molecules block energy release. CO2 and Methane are examples
3. Man's activity has raised the number of these molecules above what would be from otherwise normal processes.
4. The amounts in the atmosphere can be, and are, measured. The increase in energy capture can be calculated as well.
5. Paleo data is available for times of similar gas concentrations and associated temperatures.
6. This is key: Specific feed back areas will make for variances; there will be errors in data collection and short term interpretations and conclusions; the planet is an emergent property that will sometimes react in a manner not completely anticipated (particularly in regards to time)....HOWEVER....the overall trajectory of the physical processes are well understood with the general outcomes as near a certainty as we mortals can speak of. In other words, the details may vary, but the trajectory of overall global warming will pretty much match the amount of greenhouse gases that result from Mans activities.

I personally have zero expectation of mankind taking any steps significant enough to reduce the annual addition of greenhouse gases. The temp of both the atmosphere and oceans will increase accordingly. The acidity of the oceans will continue to increase. All processes affected by these increases will accelerate. Sever weather, droughts, fires, sea level rise, etc which in turn affect our civilization. Famine, migrations, wars, economy stresses/collapse...which all have additional feedbacks that will probably cascade.

At some point the increases from Man's activity will slow significantly as a result of all this fun stuff. If we lack the wisdom to limit the output of our technological success, Nature will limit them for us. She has a long and honored tradition of doing so when any of her populations indulge in overshoot.
These kids referenced by the original poster are protesting against this dystopian future. I expect their efforts to be fruitless, but at least they are trying.
Man is quite clever, but He is not wise. He tends to believe what he wants to believe. Proofs seldom can penetrate that emotional armor.
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