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Old 10-22-2024 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Skylarking
True. Another change in my lifetime (Gen X) is that you never talked about politics or religion unless you knew a person very well. Then came 24 hour news (bad), the internet (worse), and social media (way worse).
I think your observations on the 3 changes in how we communicate are accurate. They are a significant portion of the "how" this has all come to be.

As to some thoughts on the "why", I will only share a limited amount. (don't wish to create too much outrage)

Any person with even a passing knowledge of the rise of Nazism, and/or the consolation of power by Stalinism, is well aware of the disconnect between truth, reality, and language that were features of their rule.
Hannah Arendt pointed out that language was the prepatory path and precursor from gaining and consolidating power to deeds themselves. Performance turned into actuality.
My opinion is that such a path for a very few is pre-planned. For the average authoritarian who yearns for dictatorial powers it is simply a road that inevitably ensues. They create their own emergent outcomes; with each escalation in violence leading to another, greater level.

When I was a boy one of my brothers and i dismantled a some rifle shells we found in a field. We wanted the gunpowder to make our own little cannon. Our father found our stash of powder and had a fit. He informed us we had enough there to turn us into ground meat. I don't know if it was true, but the deeper point was that we were playing with a substance with power we didn't understand.
I worry that the rhetoric, the outright lying, the acceptance of illusion rather than reality is viewed by many as performative play. The reality of it may surprise them.
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Old 10-27-2024 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxQ
I worry that the rhetoric, the outright lying, the acceptance of illusion rather than reality is viewed by many as performative play. The reality of it may surprise them.
I hear you.

Hopefully we have some defense via our institutions... not everybody in congress has been marinated in the system long enough to have been assimilated. Few people in the military have.

I tend to suspect that in order for authoritarianism to take hold here we'd have to have some real physical disruption to society first (ex. nuclear war). Then emergency powers could lead you down a road you don't come back from.

Covid wasn't bad enough IMO because the actual impact on society was almost entirely artifically induced, and they wisely retracted the restrictions right about the time people were starting to ignore them anyway (at different times for different demographics).
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