They don't have one, and even if they did, they couldn't get it to the US nor would they want to.

 

Ask yourself why the Iranian government attacked them?

 

First part is true, for now. But DPRK worked it's range up, IR could eventually do the same.

But there is an element of potentially extreme irrational behavior in their command & control, so while I mostly am comfortable with DPRK not launching on the US unprovoked, I'm not at all sure about IR... they poked the IL bear to the breaking point and got full FAFO. Did they learn their lesson? Obviously not so far.

Policy wise, they define IL as the "little satan" and the US as the "great satan"... if they'd do it to IL, there's absolutely no reason to think they wouldn't do it to us.

Also they are objectively the nation most likely to actually use nukes, and any such use would probably be catastrophically disruptive to the global economy. I do care about that, and want .gov to do something about it.

 

Anybody who has lived in a country where fundamentalist Islam is entrenched in the government would be glad to explain just how b@t$hit crazy some of these theocracies can get. And when they spend 45 years encouraging their people to shout “Death to America” and “Death to Israel” and then devote a significant amount of their national GDP to nukes and ICBM development, it’s not surprising that the target countries become concerned.

And yeah, I’d prefer Congress actually do their constitutional job rather than push the hard decisions off to an unelected Executive bureaucracy or the President too, but they seem to dodge all the tough calls in favor of Monday morning quarterbacking.

 

Now Trump is saying the US owns Iranian airspace and demanding their "unconditional surrender"

Hmm... when did Congress declare war on the Iranian government?

 

Iran is a confirmed state sponsor of Islamic extremism, global terror operations. Absent long standing proxy, diplomatic/logistical, shelter & support from Kremlin accomplices, they may be running short on zealots eager to dress up in C4 cloaks. At the same time, it would be grossly naive to assume no access to beyond conventional weapon capabilities. Without question IDF is weighing that risk with extreme caution.

 

The discussion of, "preventing Iran from building and obtaining a nuclear weapon,” is the distraction. If Iran decommissioned their nuke program today, the Israeli policy on Iran would not change. The publicly stated goal of Israel is regime change in Iran. Thats the end state of this. Israel cannot do that on their own and they must have American help to do so.

In 1967, every Arab country was adversarial to the state of Israel. Several of them engaged in direct combat. In the preceding decades, every Arab government who did not surrender and become quasi-vassal states were subject to regime change. The United States was the combatant arm of Israeli foreign policy for nearly every one of them. Iraq, Lybia, Syria, Houthi’s, Arab Spring, ect.. Many of us, myself included, took part in these operations.

There is only one adversarial country left that threatens Israeli national security, Iran.

For the sake of not getting banned, Im not going to state on this site who specifically runs US foreign policy, but suffice it to say they have Wikipedia pages with early life sections….

 

You think the Iranian government is "less sane" than the government of North Korea??? lol

I'm sure the Israeli government did absolutely nothing to provoke the Iranian government into action (sarcasm). Either way, this conflict is of no business to the US government.



Only because the US government illegally intervenes in their affairs and picks sides where it shouldn't.


The MMIC has been saying that Iran is just weeks away from a nuclear weapon since the 1980s. That card is tired, old, played out, and has no more effect because no one believes it. The head of US Intel even said 2 months ago that Iran is nowhere near a nuke.

But even if they were, why shouldn't they be allowed to have one? Isn't every sovereign nation entitled to be able to defend itself?

 

Please tell me you aren’t that naive.

 

They are a threat to Israel. Thats why we are involved.