You are a completely brainwashed kremlin propagandist.



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No I’m not. Holding a different (and I believe more fully informed) opinion than you does not make me either brainwashed nor a propagandist.

Now do you still think Gavrilo Princip is responsible for WWI? (Which arguably ser the stage for WWII?).

 

You have spent three years blaming Ukraine for getting invaded.

You have spent three years blaming Europe for Ukraine getting invaded.

You have spent three years urging the USA to abandon Ukraine.

You have spent three years gleefully reporting any russian advance.

You have spent three years ignoring Ukraine’s robust defense and embarrassment of russia.

I don’t have to call you a kremlin propagandist….. you are making it obvious that is what you are.



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Reporting reality is not propagandizing. It’s in fact a rejection of propaganda. You might believe the Russian Ukrainian war is going fine but the reality is they are losing slowly - albeit taking a substantial toll of Russians - but that seems a price that Russia is willing to pay. You might believe that absent Putin this would have never happened but the reality is there have always been wars in Europe. Can you say Napolean?

So what are your realistic choices to turn the tide of battle? Because Ukrainian forces are not inexhaustible, and they are getting pretty exhausted right now.

I see only two realistic POSSIBILITIES, US boots on the ground (Germany’s foreign minister just questioned if they even have enough troops to be part of the “coalition of the willing” even if we can get the war stopped- far less take back the eastern Oblasts and Crimea https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/1096931.html )

We are really talking about either US troops on the ground or nukes, in my opinion, and I don’t think even the Warhawks in Congress will believe the juice is worth THAT squeeze.

But if you have a REALISTIC suggestion for restoring Ukraine to its internationally recognized borders, I’ll be glad to hear it. But all I hear from you is “Putin is bad” which I will readily concede. But that doesn’t tell me how a political entity that didn’t have the power to hold onto Crimea and those Oblasts in defense is somehow going to be able to get them back. Seizing territory is - generally speaking - a lot more manpower and munition intensive than holding it. That’s not by any means cheering the Russians on or even justifying their actions, just acknowledging reality. And not acknowledging reality is - at least in the wars I’ve seen - a bad tactic.

 

Reporting only the russian side of the argument is, by definition, the act of a kremlin sympathizer and propagandist.

The funny thing is since you got that other thread locked, it now serves as a time capsule that everyone can view in perpetuity to reference all the times you:

blamed Ukraine for getting invaded

blamed Europe for Ukraine getting invaded

urged the USA to abandon Ukraine

gleefully reported any russian advance

ignored Ukraine’s robust defense and embarrassment of russia

In other words, you self identified as a kremlin propagandist….. you made it obvious that is what you are.

Your continual denials are simply lies. Your actions have been memorialized in that other thread and will always show your true colors as a russian propagandist.




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Please tell me how my opinion differs from this recent Wall Street Journal editorial:

https://www.wsj.com/world/how-will-t...0d99?st=bmwnix

 

This thread is about the US supplying advanced weapons to Ukraine to fight russia, and getting the Europeans to pay for them.

You have a tremendous capability to ramble on and on and on about irrelevant topics ten degree of separation from the subject matter.

So far you have posted about an archduke assassination over 100 years ago, Cuban sanctions from 65 years ago, budgetary shortfalls in Spain circa 1992, birthrates on the European continent, Free Tibet, and Greta Thunberg while always parroting your fear mongering screeches of WW III or US boots on the ground in russia.

All of which is absolutely irrelevant to the current situation which forced putin to come to the negotiating table. At over 1,000 casualties a day he is running out of meat for the grinder and looking for an exit.


Your ability to cut and paste is not in question, neither is your ability to deny the truth.

That was on full display for 3 years in that other thread and the end result was it was locked.

The funny thing is since you got that other thread locked, it now serves as a time capsule that everyone can view in perpetuity to reference all the times you:

blamed Ukraine for getting invaded

blamed Europe for Ukraine getting invaded

urged the USA to abandon Ukraine

gleefully reported any russian advance

ignored Ukraine’s robust defense and embarrassment of russia

In other words, you self identified as a kremlin propagandist….. you made it obvious that is what you are.

Your continual denials are simply lies. Your actions have been memorialized in that other thread and will always show your true colors as a russian propagandist.


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US troops on the ground or nukes? Or give me another VIABLE option.

 

Book recommendations.

"Black Earth" by Timothy Snyder

"Hitlers Willing Executioners" by Daniel Goldhagen

In an attempt to add some insight to your post----
A large town/small city in Poland that I have spent some time in has a comparatively recent memorial erected for the memory of 16 men (one was only 16 years old) who were hung by the Germans in 1944.
The memorial makes reference to Hitlerowskich & Hitlerowskiego regarding whom tortured and invaded respectively.
As you may surmise invoking Hitler translates as Nazi. In an official act of political correctness the memorial diplomatically places the blame for this crime on the ephemeral "nazis".
What a crock.
The men were murdered by Germans. Period.
But just like your referenced legal position taken by the USA, Poland doesn't want to offend their neighbor to the west. Gotta move forward and all that, doncha know.
Just as former SS officers can be useful rocket engineers.

As Goldhagen emphasizes in his book, the Holocaust was conceived by and perpetuated by the German nation. But it was Hitler who had the vision and harnessed the national culture and deep prejudices to act on his vision.
In Snyder's book there is a chapter titled Auschwitz. In it Snyder argues that by making Auschwitz the face of the entire Holocaust it makes the crime politically manageable for Germany. It obscures the logistical enormity of what happened and how widespread it was in all facets of German activity. Hitlerowski indeed.
Only military defeat stopped furtherance of the holocaust and the next planned phase: Generalplan Ost. Had that actually occurred add another 50 plus million to those murdered.

As a sidenote and relevant to today, the above is recent enough that there are lots of thoughtful people who do not share your desire for Germany to create a bigger and more powerful army. The wish is for Germany to be a participant in what was once referred to as a "security community". Not a new Prussian powerhouse.
To make the Marshall Plan work a military alliance was needed so everyone would play fair. A security community that, yes, will face Soviet aggression, but also make sure the murderous wars between the non-soviet controlled states become a thing of the past.
NATO was, and is, much more than just a deterrence to Russia. It was also to create a peace between its members. A "security community".

 

A security community that spent the last 35 years unilaterally disarming.

As for not wanting Germany to have a bigger and better army, Germany HAD - throughout most of the Cold War - a larger and far more competent army than they do at present and nobody very much gave a damn then. Seems strange they would worry about it now, all these years later.

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